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RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Magnetron - 09-14-2019
(09-14-2019, 04:59 AM)mothered Wrote:(08-01-2019, 06:20 PM)Magnetron Wrote: When I called to complain about this, they told me I'm not guaranteed 100% of the speed
There Is no ISP, that can guarantee nor provide It's "peak" speed at 100% on a "consistent" basis.
I don't expect the peak speed 24/7. I expect 75% of the peak speed to occur the majority of the time. What I do NOT expect is the minimum speed twenty-four-fucking-seven. Anyone who offers 20% of 5 mbps 99% of the time should not advertise it as 5 mbps to begin with.
Imagine being advertised a car that can, maybe, once in a blue moon reach 50 mph but you'll only hear about the "can, maybe, once in a blue moon" part after you already spent 40 grand on it.
These pieces of shit should be prosecuted.
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Magnetron - 09-14-2019
(09-14-2019, 01:55 PM)Refusal Wrote: lol I'm getting like 1.5 mbps rn bro, its so ass man. I can't wait to get back to the USA to get better internet
Where are you, in Cuba?
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - mothered - 09-15-2019
(09-14-2019, 04:46 PM)Magnetron Wrote:(09-14-2019, 04:59 AM)mothered Wrote:(08-01-2019, 06:20 PM)Magnetron Wrote: When I called to complain about this, they told me I'm not guaranteed 100% of the speed
There Is no ISP, that can guarantee nor provide It's "peak" speed at 100% on a "consistent" basis.
I don't expect the peak speed 24/7. I expect 75% of the peak speed to occur the majority of the time. What I do NOT expect is the minimum speed twenty-four-fucking-seven. Anyone who offers 20% of 5 mbps 99% of the time should not advertise it as 5 mbps to begin with.
Imagine being advertised a car that can, maybe, once in a blue moon reach 50 mph but you'll only hear about the "can, maybe, once in a blue moon" part after you already spent 40 grand on it.
These pieces of shit should be prosecuted.
I totally agree, my post was more so stating a fact, nothing more.
Ultimately, you're paying for a service that fails to deliver as per the contractual agreement.
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Magnetron - 09-15-2019
(09-15-2019, 08:08 AM)mothered Wrote:(09-14-2019, 04:46 PM)Magnetron Wrote:(09-14-2019, 04:59 AM)mothered Wrote: There Is no ISP, that can guarantee nor provide It's "peak" speed at 100% on a "consistent" basis.
I don't expect the peak speed 24/7. I expect 75% of the peak speed to occur the majority of the time. What I do NOT expect is the minimum speed twenty-four-fucking-seven. Anyone who offers 20% of 5 mbps 99% of the time should not advertise it as 5 mbps to begin with.
Imagine being advertised a car that can, maybe, once in a blue moon reach 50 mph but you'll only hear about the "can, maybe, once in a blue moon" part after you already spent 40 grand on it.
These pieces of shit should be prosecuted.
I totally agree, my post was more so stating a fact, nothing more.
Ultimately, you're paying for a service that fails to deliver as per the contractual agreement.
Indeed, but the problem is that there is a loophole. Deep in the pages-long contract it guarantees a "minimum speed" of 20%. As long as they always provide that minimum speed, they are covered. But they exploit this to only give you this minimum speed the majority of the time.
I'm no lawyer, but they should still be sued for violating the spirit of the contract. To advertize a certain speed and then only provide its minimum is a ridiculous interpretation to expect any normal person to make.
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - mothered - 09-15-2019
(09-15-2019, 11:40 AM)Magnetron Wrote:(09-15-2019, 08:08 AM)mothered Wrote:(09-14-2019, 04:46 PM)Magnetron Wrote: I don't expect the peak speed 24/7. I expect 75% of the peak speed to occur the majority of the time. What I do NOT expect is the minimum speed twenty-four-fucking-seven. Anyone who offers 20% of 5 mbps 99% of the time should not advertise it as 5 mbps to begin with.
Imagine being advertised a car that can, maybe, once in a blue moon reach 50 mph but you'll only hear about the "can, maybe, once in a blue moon" part after you already spent 40 grand on it.
These pieces of shit should be prosecuted.
I totally agree, my post was more so stating a fact, nothing more.
Ultimately, you're paying for a service that fails to deliver as per the contractual agreement.
Indeed, but the problem is that there is a loophole. Deep in the pages-long contract it guarantees a "minimum speed" of 20%. As long as they always provide that minimum speed, they are covered.
This Is where they've wiped their hands clean of any possible litigation. They're keeping their end of the deal Intact, by providing the minimum speed.
Quote:To advertize a certain speedExactly how did/do they advertise the speed?
That Is, Is It a set speed, or something along the lines of (example) "Get up to 25Mbps", with the operative words being up to.
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Refusal - 09-15-2019
(09-14-2019, 04:49 PM)Magnetron Wrote:(09-14-2019, 01:55 PM)Refusal Wrote: lol I'm getting like 1.5 mbps rn bro, its so ass man. I can't wait to get back to the USA to get better internet
Where are you, in Cuba?
In the Middle East rn man.
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Magnetron - 09-16-2019
(09-15-2019, 12:30 PM)mothered Wrote: This Is where they've wiped their hands clean of any possible litigation. They're keeping their end of the deal Intact, by providing the minimum speed.
But minimum speed is not typical speed. Most people interpret 'minimum' as worst-case-scenario. To conflate the two is a ridiculous stretch.
They advertise it as "Internet (number of mbps)". For example, a 25 Mbps service would be "Internet 25 plan". Further clarification describes it as the "maximum" speed. Deep in the lease agreement it's further clarified that 20% of the maximum speed is "guaranteed". There is no mention of the typical speed to expect or that the minimum speed will be the typical speed. So you won't find out until after you bought the service.
Should anyone sue them for this deception, the case will probably revolve around whether the 'minimum speed guarantee' is vague enough to warrant a breach.
(09-15-2019, 04:49 PM)Refusal Wrote: In the Middle East rn man.
I see. Is it a rich Middle East country or a crappy one?
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Refusal - 09-16-2019
(09-16-2019, 12:39 PM)Magnetron Wrote:Crappy really crappy.(09-15-2019, 12:30 PM)mothered Wrote: This Is where they've wiped their hands clean of any possible litigation. They're keeping their end of the deal Intact, by providing the minimum speed.
But minimum speed is not typical speed. Most people interpret 'minimum' as worst-case-scenario. To conflate the two is a ridiculous stretch.
They advertise it as "Internet (number of mbps)". For example, a 25 Mbps service would be "Internet 25 plan". Further clarification describes it as the "maximum" speed. Deep in the lease agreement it's further clarified that 20% of the maximum speed is "guaranteed". There is no mention of the typical speed to expect or that the minimum speed will be the typical speed. So you won't find out until after you bought the service.
Should anyone sue them for this deception, the case will probably revolve around whether the 'minimum speed guarantee' is vague enough to warrant a breach.
(09-15-2019, 04:49 PM)Refusal Wrote: In the Middle East rn man.
I see. Is it a rich Middle East country or a crappy one?
Doing contracting out here. But I’ll be back in about a month and a half.
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - mothered - 09-16-2019
(09-16-2019, 12:39 PM)Magnetron Wrote: They advertise it as "Internet (number of mbps)".
Is there a fine print to the contrary of this?
RE: Enjoying that 25Mbps internet speed, America? Oh, it's just 6Mbps? - Magnetron - 09-17-2019
(09-16-2019, 08:43 PM)mothered Wrote:(09-16-2019, 12:39 PM)Magnetron Wrote: They advertise it as "Internet (number of mbps)".
Is there a fine print to the contrary of this?
What do you mean?