(10-20-2015, 01:54 AM)Lain Wrote: Do explain what's invalid about the other two reasons I gave.

(10-20-2015, 01:47 AM)Lain Wrote: 1) XMPP is a shit protocol.
2) Most XMPP clients are not secure out of the box, requiring plugins to make them secure.
3) More than one person has had a bad experience. the XMPP protocol is retarded and a tonne of people hate using it.

(10-20-2015, 04:11 AM)username1 Wrote: 1. Your reason can't be what you're trying to prove. That would be the same as "XMPP is a shit protocol because XMPP is a shit protocol." Hence why it's invalid.
2. This is actually valid and correct, good for you.
3. Would you mind pointing me or telling me who the "tonne" of people are that hate using it?

(10-20-2015, 04:46 AM)Ion Wrote: Fuck Skype. Fuck Slack. Everyone move to Tox, a one hundred percent free, open-source communications program. Although still in some heavy development, it's very easy to use, yet very efficient. I use it with all of my friends.

(10-19-2015, 11:47 PM)DarkMuse Wrote: Omfg just use the fucking IRC if you hate Skype so much

(10-20-2015, 12:15 AM)username1 Wrote: XMPP is superior to any instant messaging protocol.

(10-20-2015, 04:30 AM)Heart Wrote: -snip-

(09-01-2015, 09:06 PM)blackhatcat Wrote: Jesus christ you "nothing to hide" kids make me sick. I'm not even going to bother convincing anyone to stop using Microsoft products anymore because clearly you idiots will continue to use them.

Regarding what @BlueScreen said, you can't disable that shit no matter how hard you try because they don't want you to, don't believe me? Run something like peerblock and you can see every time Windows pings home. They do more than keylog the browser, we don't even know about the full extent of this mass surveillance but they include taking screenshots every time you install something and keylogging everything you type in the start menu (when you search for files, etc). You are surrendering your privacy to a 3rd party company that uses you to make money. Hurr durr tinfoil hat but someone out there knows and has access to everything you've ever done and how can you think that it will never be used against you in any way?

I'll quote my old post from another thread where we talked about exactly the same topic.

(08-01-2015, 12:13 AM)blackhatcat Wrote: People like you make me angry, just because you say you have nothing to hide doesn't mean you should throw away your rights to privacy or not express opposition to mass surveillance.

If you have nothing to hide, then you wouldn't mind letting me read your emails, do you let anyone come in your house to look around or did you also take down your curtains because you have nothing to hide? The saying is that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear.

Furthermore, if you have nothing to hide, then you don't have a life.
If someone looked hard enough into you they could always find something you're guilty of, a crime can always be found. Just because mass surveillance means that you are one in millions doesn't mean you're not affected, even if nobody cares about you now doesn't mean you won't ever run into someone with access to all of the data gathered and have it used against you.

(10-20-2015, 04:46 AM)Ion Wrote: Fuck Skype. Fuck Slack. Everyone move to Tox, a one hundred percent free, open-source communications program. Although still in some heavy development, it's very easy to use, yet very efficient. I use it with all of my friends.