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RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - Inori - 04-21-2015
(04-20-2015, 01:00 PM)Oni Wrote: To be honest, our justice system is overly harsh. We need to focus a bit more on rehabilitation and less on punishment. Prisoners should at least have decent living conditions.
Funny story about that issue:
Here in Canada a guy convicted of second degree murder was sentenced to 15 years and got his Master's in psycology while behind bars. Depending on the facility, you can actually do something that will benefit your life after you get out.
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - roger_smith - 04-21-2015
(04-21-2015, 04:57 PM)Touka Wrote: Funny story about that issue:
Here in Canada a guy convicted of second degree murder was sentenced to 15 years and got his Master's in psycology while behind bars. Depending on the facility, you can actually do something that will benefit your life after you get out.
That's part of the difference.
The US has a very "lockem up and toss the key" mentality which is why we have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world. You know, the "land of the free".
We need reform in so many ways on the criminal justice front, it's not even funny. This is a perfect example of throwing everything they can at a kid to see what sticks to the wall. It's not like he hacked into a .gov facility and stole data, he changed a fucking wallpaper. As far as I'm concerned, that doesn't even garner a police response and is something the school should have been able to handle without 3rd party involvement.
What the school SHOULD be doing (and WOULD be doing if they had someone competent and responsible in charge of their IT Sec) is doing a postmortem on the "hack" and review how exactly it happened. Was the teacher reckless with their credentials? Is there some kind of flaw in the system the student was able to exploit? It should be a learning/growing experience to improve the system.
Frankly, they should be praising this student for finding the flaw in their system and exposing it in such a mild-mannered fashion.
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - DeathAdder - 04-21-2015
(04-21-2015, 05:51 PM)roger_smith Wrote: What the school SHOULD be doing (and WOULD be doing if they had someone competent and responsible in charge of their IT Sec) is doing a postmortem on the "hack" and review how exactly it happened. Was the teacher reckless with their credentials? Is there some kind of flaw in the system the student was able to exploit? It should be a learning/growing experience to improve the system.
Frankly, they should be praising this student for finding the flaw in their system and exposing it in such a mild-mannered fashion.
While I agree with everything you said, I must say that every school I've been to (17 yrs old atm, new school every year since I started) that most schools don't care enough to pay for decent IT departments because they don't think of kids like this will do anything. I've brought several things to my schools IT department I suggested they work on, yet they haven't done jack shiz with it. I have a feeling it takes good IT people to appreciate something like what this kid did, even though it might have been wrong.
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - roger_smith - 04-21-2015
I guess I come at it form the small-town mentality. You don't need to involve the pigs with every little thing some kid does. Bring a weapon to school and threaten students, go ahead and call in the fuzz! "hack" a computer using a teachers credentials? Probably don't need the Calvary for that one.
Reading the article, it doesn't even discuss what the "hack" is. Did the teacher leave the workstation open and unattended? Did the teacher write the password under the keyboard? Did the teacher use a shitty password? I think the actual method of "hack" is very important here. The news is painting this kid as some leet haxxor straight outta the movie "Hackers" and as a menace to society. If the test questions were encrypted" and didn't use the same shitty password as the teachers workstation (assuming that's how the student "hacked" the system) then who the FUCK cares, they're encrypted. That's the whole fucking point of encryption - security in layers.
ah, in the video it says he "used an administrative password". Hmmm......
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - Marijuana - 04-26-2015
A kid at my school got suspended for 10 days with like 2 weeks of ISS just for making a program that open and closed the CD drive until it broke. What has society come to?
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - Tiszy - 05-04-2015
This is so dumb, why didnt they just suspend him instead? Rules these days...
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - mothered - 05-05-2015
Although his actions were not malicious In any way, It's the "unauthorized access" that's the Issue.
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the charges laid against the kid, but If he were someone with malicious Intent, the ramifications could've been catastrophic.
RE: Grey Hat Hacker Middle Schooler Charged With Third Degree Felonies - Xanders - 06-06-2015
Dafuq thats fucked up. Look at society def fucked up