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RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - DragonicRek - 08-08-2018
(08-07-2018, 09:33 PM)AttackHelicopter Wrote: Hello guys,
So I've been reluctant to use someone else's serial numbers and what not, to acquire a replacement from companies. Now, I don't know how companies deal with people who e-mail them and tell them they have a product that's not working, give them their serial number and etc and then the company tells the customer or owner of the product that the serial number already has been used. The customer or owner gets angry and demands a replacement or a refund, what actions does the company take in that case? The product is already broken, so how come the serial number is being sent in one more time?
What's your take on this, can I get in trouble for using other's serial number? Moreover, I'm also hesitant to use fake receipts since I don't know what actions a company can take for your attempt to defraud them of their device or money with a fake receipt. Would appreciate the help of any answers.
The true owners are either screwed over or the company gives sympathy and still sends the replacement. The chances of the company pressing charges depends on numerous variables.
1. Item cost
2. How often you've done it
3. How long ago you did it
4. Total net worth stolen from the company.
If the product is a small amount (rough estimate <400$) the company will not press charges.
You can secure your safety by using fake names, different addresses and VCC
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - ragnar - 08-08-2018
(07-14-2018, 02:07 AM)DragonicRek Wrote:(06-06-2018, 05:57 PM)SadPirate Wrote: Logistics company took a picture of my package in front of my home. How screwed am I? Can I still SE? The last thing I SE'd was in October '17. The current package worth about $60 USD.
Sorry for the late reply, But here's the answer.
If there was signature confirmation and you signed your real, then it's over. You can't SE them anymore. You can say that someone stole the package and that it's gone. If Amazon makes you sign a paper saying that you did not take it ( which they most likely will not) then you have to give up. Otherwise that, just tell them that someone stole it
What they took a picture of the item at the front door and then a fake sig? If they open an invesgation with the courier and he comes over to the house and says why did I lie, what do I do? Do I not open the door? I do make my friend come over that day and do a fake sig and then when the courier comes I show him my ID and say it wasn't me?
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - ragnar - 08-08-2018
(07-14-2018, 02:22 AM)DragonicRek Wrote:(07-14-2018, 02:13 AM)silentbell Wrote:(07-14-2018, 01:52 AM)skrtja Wrote: Tell them you didn't receive it in the mail after two weeks. Simple as that.
That works thanks, but what if I want more, I can do that once but then it seems the gig is up. Someone must have found a way to keep this going...right?
Then use a reship service
Also wouldn't you have to user another cd with a different name or just a different cd? How about using a gift prepaidcard?
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - ragnar - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 05:59 AM)DragonicRek Wrote:(08-07-2018, 09:33 PM)AttackHelicopter Wrote: Hello guys,
So I've been reluctant to use someone else's serial numbers and what not, to acquire a replacement from companies. Now, I don't know how companies deal with people who e-mail them and tell them they have a product that's not working, give them their serial number and etc and then the company tells the customer or owner of the product that the serial number already has been used. The customer or owner gets angry and demands a replacement or a refund, what actions does the company take in that case? The product is already broken, so how come the serial number is being sent in one more time?
What's your take on this, can I get in trouble for using other's serial number? Moreover, I'm also hesitant to use fake receipts since I don't know what actions a company can take for your attempt to defraud them of their device or money with a fake receipt. Would appreciate the help of any answers.
The true owners are either screwed over or the company gives sympathy and still sends the replacement. The chances of the company pressing charges depends on numerous variables.
1. Item cost
2. How often you've done it
3. How long ago you did it
4. Total net worth stolen from the company.
If the product is a small amount (rough estimate <400$) the company will not press charges.
You can secure your safety by using fake names, different addresses and VCC
How safe is using reships? If something where to happen such as a company wanting to press charges and went to the reship company asking for my real address, would they give it up? How do you cover your trail then? I guess I could just do reship and then send it to my house but use a fake name? I live in the city and typically my province doesn't have any abandon houses due to province laws.
EDIT: Sorry for asking bunch of questions, started all the way from page 1, learnt a shit ton, just want to say thanks.
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - AttackHelicopter - 08-08-2018
(08-08-2018, 05:59 AM)DragonicRek Wrote:(08-07-2018, 09:33 PM)AttackHelicopter Wrote: Hello guys,
So I've been reluctant to use someone else's serial numbers and what not, to acquire a replacement from companies. Now, I don't know how companies deal with people who e-mail them and tell them they have a product that's not working, give them their serial number and etc and then the company tells the customer or owner of the product that the serial number already has been used. The customer or owner gets angry and demands a replacement or a refund, what actions does the company take in that case? The product is already broken, so how come the serial number is being sent in one more time?
What's your take on this, can I get in trouble for using other's serial number? Moreover, I'm also hesitant to use fake receipts since I don't know what actions a company can take for your attempt to defraud them of their device or money with a fake receipt. Would appreciate the help of any answers.
The true owners are either screwed over or the company gives sympathy and still sends the replacement. The chances of the company pressing charges depends on numerous variables.
1. Item cost
2. How often you've done it
3. How long ago you did it
4. Total net worth stolen from the company.
If the product is a small amount (rough estimate <400$) the company will not press charges.
You can secure your safety by using fake names, different addresses and VCC
I have never done it on orders over 300$, and I won't do it more than once from the same company. However, I use my real info when doing a SE. I've been hesitant to SE from UE since I don't want to get in trouble. How does point 3. matter? And I can't use fake names since the packages usually needs to be picked up at the postal office with a ID.
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - devolver33 - 08-11-2018
What is a drop? And could you please list the steps for a common SEing were you (the one returning) comes ahead?
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - skrtja - 08-11-2018
(08-11-2018, 02:39 PM)devolver33 Wrote: What is a drop? And could you please list the steps for a common SEing were you (the one returning) comes ahead?
Drop is an address you ship to. So maybe a house for sale or a vacant house you ship to.
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - AttackHelicopter - 08-11-2018
What happens if you send over fake receipts to get replacements for free? I sent one from eBay by doing Inspect Element, what happen in that case? Can I use my real name, address etc when sending over fake receipts or inspect element ebay receipts?
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - bbBrandon - 08-28-2018
I haven't taken time to read all 25 pages of this thread so my question might be a repeated one.
Can you SE eBay, Newegg, Banggood, and/or AliExpress? (all Canada site, not .com)
I never tried them and never bought from them before, but I came across some good deals.
RE: Ask me anything about SE!! - mothered - 08-28-2018
(08-28-2018, 02:43 AM)bbBrandon Wrote: I haven't taken time to read all 25 pages of this thread so my question might be a repeated one.
Can you SE eBay, Newegg, Banggood, and/or AliExpress? (all Canada site, not .com)
I never tried them and never bought from them before, but I came across some good deals.
You can SE anyone.
Low value Items are a lot easier, particularly those who're Inexperienced with a given company. Just remember you're exploiting the human firewall hence your SE Is only as good as your research, preparation, formulation and (of utmost Importance) It's execution.