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RE: Tips to SE Cologne - mothered - 09-19-2018
(09-18-2018, 08:22 PM)recasso Wrote:(09-18-2018, 04:10 PM)mothered Wrote:(09-18-2018, 03:40 PM)samboa Wrote: After I sent them an amazon receipt, they said "We do not authorize the sale of [...] products online except on our website. The only other websites that are authorized to sell [...] products are [..........]"
I guess I'm screwed.
Why are you targeting Gucci and not dealing with Amazon directly?
He never purchased the cologne I guess.
Yes I know.
But given an Amazon receipt was generated against the Item and they well and truly stock It, dealing with Amazon directly will leave no room for excuses of their part.
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - samboa - 09-19-2018
(09-18-2018, 04:10 PM)mothered Wrote:(09-18-2018, 03:40 PM)samboa Wrote: After I sent them an amazon receipt, they said "We do not authorize the sale of [...] products online except on our website. The only other websites that are authorized to sell [...] products are [..........]"
I guess I'm screwed.
Why are you targeting Gucci and not dealing with Amazon directly?
How do I deal with Amazon if I generated a fake amazon receipt? All they have to do is realize I never placed the order. (I know you know I never purchased because you said generate fake receipt).
Maybe I am missing something
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - mothered - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 04:32 AM)samboa Wrote:(09-18-2018, 04:10 PM)mothered Wrote:(09-18-2018, 03:40 PM)samboa Wrote: After I sent them an amazon receipt, they said "We do not authorize the sale of [...] products online except on our website. The only other websites that are authorized to sell [...] products are [..........]"
I guess I'm screwed.
Why are you targeting Gucci and not dealing with Amazon directly?
How do I deal with Amazon if I generated a fake amazon receipt? All they have to do is realize I never placed the order.
The same can be said for any other company who cross-checks the receipt- same difference.
Evidently the receipt will not come up on their systems (It's fake), hence It comes down to an administrative error on their end (so they think) and If your SE Is formulated & calculated enough to solidify the fact that the Item was received against the receipt, then the probability of a successful outcome significantly Increases.
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - samboa - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 05:08 AM)mothered Wrote:(09-19-2018, 04:32 AM)samboa Wrote:(09-18-2018, 04:10 PM)mothered Wrote: Why are you targeting Gucci and not dealing with Amazon directly?
How do I deal with Amazon if I generated a fake amazon receipt? All they have to do is realize I never placed the order.
The same can be said for any other company who cross-checks the receipt- same difference.
Evidently the receipt will not come up on their systems (It's fake), hence It comes down to an administrative error on their end (so they think) and If your SE Is formulated & calculated enough to solidify the fact that the Item was received against the receipt, then the probability of a successful outcome significantly Increases.
Definitely because I am new to this, but I still don't see how this would be possible.
A) in order to contact amazon for refund/exchange I have to be logged in
B) My real name/info would be included in this fake order, (risky), but I guess as long as I am asking for a replacement it is fine but I can't get a refund to a non existant order or cc (there's nothing to reverse). But I am looking for never-purchased so non-concern. But I sense sending replacements for fake orders in your own account has a higher risk of account problems than a legit order that gets refunded/resent. hmmm, thoughts?
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - mothered - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 05:50 AM)samboa Wrote:(09-19-2018, 05:08 AM)mothered Wrote:(09-19-2018, 04:32 AM)samboa Wrote: How do I deal with Amazon if I generated a fake amazon receipt? All they have to do is realize I never placed the order.
The same can be said for any other company who cross-checks the receipt- same difference.
Evidently the receipt will not come up on their systems (It's fake), hence It comes down to an administrative error on their end (so they think) and If your SE Is formulated & calculated enough to solidify the fact that the Item was received against the receipt, then the probability of a successful outcome significantly Increases.
Definitely because I am new to this, but I still don't see how this would be possible.
A) in order to contact amazon for refund/exchange I have to be logged in
B) My real name/info would be included in this fake order, (risky), but I guess as long as I am asking for a replacement it is fine but I can't get a refund to a non existant order or cc (there's nothing to reverse). But I am looking for never-purchased so non-concern. But I sense sending replacements for fake orders in your own account has a higher risk of account problems than a legit order that gets refunded/resent. hmmm, thoughts?
Before I post my advice, what was your Intention with Gucci If they accepted the fake Amazon receipt?
In terms of a refund or replacement from your standpoint (as mentioned above), Amazon, Gucci (or any other merchant) are equal when accepting a fake receipt and fulfilling your request thereafter.
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - samboa - 09-19-2018
My end result is I get cologne that I never paid for. gucci isnt the only one I wanted, I also wanted Versace.
I'm ready for your advice
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - mothered - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 06:40 AM)samboa Wrote: My end result is I get cologne that I never paid for. gucci isnt the only one I wanted, I also wanted Versace.
I understand that.
How were you hoping to achieve that result with the fake receipt?
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - litpapii - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 06:40 AM)samboa Wrote: My end result is I get cologne that I never paid for. gucci isnt the only one I wanted, I also wanted Versace.
I'm ready for your advice
For cologne wouldn't you be able to say that the cologne bottle has come broken and that the liquid has spilled everywhere, if they ask for an imagine find it online, or send a corrupt file. Would this work?
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - samboa - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 08:17 AM)mothered Wrote:(09-19-2018, 06:40 AM)samboa Wrote: My end result is I get cologne that I never paid for. gucci isnt the only one I wanted, I also wanted Versace.
I understand that.
How were you hoping to achieve that result with the fake receipt?
With everything I've already mentioned. Told them it smelled bad, child /health/ etc (dont really want to post exactly in case these companies read these!) , I threw it out because of the scare, please send me another bottle here is my receipt/POP.
What are you trying to ask?
RE: Tips to SE Cologne - mothered - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 04:01 PM)samboa Wrote: Told them it smelled bad, child /health/ etc (dont really want to post exactly in case these companies read these!) , I threw it out because of the scare, please send me another bottle here is my receipt/POP.That's what I was trying to establish- the grounds on which you're Intending to use the fake receipt, of which you've confirmed Is a replacement.
Your Indecisiveness below has now been answered by the above.
Quote:but I still don't see how this would be possible.
but I guess as long as I am asking for a replacement it is fine but I can't get a refund to a non existant order or cc (there's nothing to reverse).