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RE: TOR. - Esoterith - 02-01-2019
People falling for Honeypots or if I remember correctly government controlled exit nodes packet sizes being compared to isp info. They can see theres traffic but not to what I believe.
Honestly correct me if I'm wrong.
RE: TOR. - darkninja1980 - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 12:50 AM)Vespei Wrote: People falling for Honeypots or if I remember correctly government controlled exit nodes packet sizes being compared to isp info. They can see theres traffic but not to what I believe.
Honestly correct me if I'm wrong.
you are correct if you not using a vpn that do not leak your DNS.
RE: TOR. - Esoterith - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 12:53 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:50 AM)Vespei Wrote: People falling for Honeypots or if I remember correctly government controlled exit nodes packet sizes being compared to isp info. They can see theres traffic but not to what I believe.
Honestly correct me if I'm wrong.
you are correct if you not using a vpn that do not leak your DNS.
Well TOR itself is DNS, resolving their own .onion tld.
TOR Is not totally meant for VPN usage. If you want anonymity on TOR there are OSes dedicated to it. Use a VM, VPN, Bridge, etc. If you're that paranoid.
RE: TOR. - darkninja1980 - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 12:56 AM)Vespei Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:53 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:50 AM)Vespei Wrote: People falling for Honeypots or if I remember correctly government controlled exit nodes packet sizes being compared to isp info. They can see theres traffic but not to what I believe.
Honestly correct me if I'm wrong.
you are correct if you not using a vpn that do not leak your DNS.
Well TOR itself is DNS, resolving their own .onion tld.
TOR Is not totally meant for VPN usage. If you want anonymity on TOR there are OSes dedicated to it. Use a VM, VPN, Bridge, etc. If you're that paranoid.
I always use VPN when I use Tor.
RE: TOR. - mothered - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 12:53 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:50 AM)Vespei Wrote: People falling for Honeypots or if I remember correctly government controlled exit nodes packet sizes being compared to isp info. They can see theres traffic but not to what I believe.
Honestly correct me if I'm wrong.
you are correct if you not using a vpn that do not leak your DNS.
Some ISPs use transparent DNS proxy.
If your ISP Is Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPNs or others, then all DNS changes made on your end are futile. It's similar to how a MITM attack works (Interception of traffic), but obviously different In nature.
RE: TOR. - darkninja1980 - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 01:39 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:53 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:50 AM)Vespei Wrote: People falling for Honeypots or if I remember correctly government controlled exit nodes packet sizes being compared to isp info. They can see theres traffic but not to what I believe.
Honestly correct me if I'm wrong.
you are correct if you not using a vpn that do not leak your DNS.
Some ISPs use transparent DNS proxy.
If your ISP Is Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPNs or others, then all DNS changes made on your end are futile. It's similar to how a MITM attack works (Interception of traffic), but obviously different In nature.
Oh, I see. understand your point of view.
RE: TOR. - mothered - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 02:18 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 01:39 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-01-2019, 12:53 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote: you are correct if you not using a vpn that do not leak your DNS.
Some ISPs use transparent DNS proxy.
If your ISP Is Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPNs or others, then all DNS changes made on your end are futile. It's similar to how a MITM attack works (Interception of traffic), but obviously different In nature.
Oh, I see. understand your point of view.
I don't believe you do.
Provide a breakdown of how an ISP Implements transparent DNS proxy, how to detect It (client-side), measures taken to circumvent It (DHCP server settings, static DNS etc) and I'll review It thereafter.
RE: TOR. - darkninja1980 - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 08:49 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-01-2019, 02:18 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 01:39 AM)mothered Wrote: Some ISPs use transparent DNS proxy.
If your ISP Is Intercepting/rerouting your traffic via transparent DNS proxy, thereby forcing the use of their DNS servers as opposed to the VPNs or others, then all DNS changes made on your end are futile. It's similar to how a MITM attack works (Interception of traffic), but obviously different In nature.
Oh, I see. understand your point of view.
I don't believe you do.
Provide a breakdown of how an ISP Implements transparent DNS proxy, how to detect It (client-side), measures taken to circumvent It (DHCP server settings, static DNS etc) and I'll review It thereafter.
well, I was not arguing with your point of view. You do have more experience and knowledge in this. I am here to learn.
RE: TOR. - mothered - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 10:10 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote:(02-01-2019, 08:49 AM)mothered Wrote:(02-01-2019, 02:18 AM)darkninja1980 Wrote: Oh, I see. understand your point of view.
I don't believe you do.
Provide a breakdown of how an ISP Implements transparent DNS proxy, how to detect It (client-side), measures taken to circumvent It (DHCP server settings, static DNS etc) and I'll review It thereafter.
well, I was not arguing with your point of view.
I'm not suggesting you were, but rather your competency of how transparent DNS proxy works.
Moving back on-topic.