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+--- Thread: Scamming and SE (/Thread-Scamming-and-SE)
RE: Scamming and SE - sah4jt3 - 02-28-2018
(02-28-2018, 10:23 AM)Skryptec Wrote:(02-28-2018, 09:40 AM)sah4jt3 Wrote: Not convincing to be honest
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Haha okay man got it
RE: Scamming and SE - mothered - 03-01-2018
Allow me to provide a simplistic (general) breakdown off the top of my head.
Scamming: The Intention to defraud the person/entity no matter what method Is used.
Social Engineering: The Intention to manipulate the person on the other end Into doing something they're not supposed to do.
The operative words have been emphasized differentiating the two.
RE: Scamming and SE - sah4jt3 - 03-01-2018
Yes I understand now, will work on my se skills then
RE: Scamming and SE - mothered - 03-01-2018
An example of scamming Is falsifying your social security documents, by saying you're not working (when In fact you are), thereby receiving unemployment benefits at the same time.
You're not manipulating (social engineering) anyone, but more so submitting false documents to claim benefits that are not rightfully yours.
RE: Scamming and SE - Mr. Burnham - 03-02-2018
I think the main difference is that one targets sellers while the other targets buyers.
RE: Scamming and SE - ghost04 - 03-05-2018
SE is the art of manipulating other people. The way you use it might make it a scam or not. For example, if you using it to obtain information that the other person is not allowed to share, that might be or might not be fraudulent, but if you use it to obtain free stuff that is a fraud.
If you are reffering to what we do, that is a fraud of course and in the essence is the same thing as a scam. But I like to think of SE as an elegant way of scamming.
BTW, a false proof of purchase is a false document as well. So that analogy is not precise.
RE: Scamming and SE - Defeat - 03-05-2018
I think OP gets it now. SE can very much be classified as scamming though, no ?
RE: Scamming and SE - mothered - 03-05-2018
(03-05-2018, 06:35 AM)ghost04 Wrote: SE is the art of manipulating other people. The way you use it might make it a scam or not.
I certainly agree with this.
The difference with (and what defines) SEing, Is the "method" to achieve the result, whereby the "method" Is manipulating the human firewall. The result can be whatever It Is at the time- It's Immaterial. Whereas scamming has the sole Intention of a fraudulent objective.
RE: Scamming and SE - hilalvx - 03-14-2018
Who cares about the difference? Has anyone here ever pulled one?
RE: Scamming and SE - Defeat - 03-14-2018
(03-14-2018, 02:11 AM)hilalvx Wrote: Who cares about the difference? Has anyone here ever pulled one?
The op seems to care, hence the thread lol