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RE: My Advice for Computer Science Students - Nil - 07-22-2017
(07-22-2017, 04:44 AM)Inori Wrote:I sometimes forget how young you are because of how bright you are. I have a feeling a B.Sc in CS is going to be a breeze for you considering how much you already know.(07-22-2017, 03:58 AM)God Wrote: I'm assuming you're possibly chasing a master's degree?
I'm starting my last year of high school in September, then I plan on getting a B.Sc with a compsci major.
I've been told I should aim for a Master's, but I'm not keen on an extra two or three years of school and who knows how much more in tuition. In all serious it's too early to tell, so I'll see how it all plays out.
(07-22-2017, 08:03 AM)mothered Wrote: A very well documented, formatted and elaborated thread. Well done.Thank you. I personally don't believe a comp-sci major is all that important and one could progress a lot quicker pursuing other forms of learning that would actually prepare them better for a job. It's fine you've gotten no schooling and trust me, the grass isn't greener.
If only I had the resources and opportunities to study back In my younger days. I haven't attended one minute of schooling In computing, hence I'm my own teacher, analyst and problem solver.
I've also edited the OP because I remembered something else I meant to add, and that is the importance of math.
RE: My Advice for Computer Science Students - Mr.Kurd - 07-22-2017
Thank you my friend.
I wanna talk about this rule: (DO utilize your professors!)
I had a friend who was asking me at lessons a years ago, I always ask him to ask teacher instead me but he didn't.
I decide not to answer his questions, so I didn't answer his questions for two months, he started asking teachers
.In Kurdish we have a rule saying: (Do not fish for him, but teach him how fishing.)
RE: My Advice for Computer Science Students - mothered - 07-22-2017
(07-22-2017, 08:23 AM)God Wrote: It's fine you've gotten no schooling and trust me, the grass isn't greener.
In terms of "knowledge", I certainly agree. There's nothing I can't do (via my own volition), that schooling can do better.
From an employment standpoint, unfortunately you can't prove your worth on par with a certified piece of paper.
RE: My Advice for Computer Science Students - Nil - 07-22-2017
(07-22-2017, 03:02 PM)Mr.Kurd Wrote: Thank you my friend.Haha, I'm sure you enjoy helping people but there's a limit! I'm glad he was finally able to open up to his professor. Regardless if the professor shares the same info you would have given him, it's useful to get closer with your teachers and develop a relationship. It'll help with grades and opportunities beyond.
I wanna talk about this rule: (DO utilize your professors!)
I had a friend who was asking me at lessons a years ago, I always ask him to ask teacher instead me but he didn't.
I decide not to answer his questions, so I didn't answer his questions for two months, he started asking teachers
In Kurdish we have a rule saying: (Do not fish for him, but teach him how fishing.)
(07-22-2017, 03:10 PM)mothered Wrote:(07-22-2017, 08:23 AM)God Wrote: It's fine you've gotten no schooling and trust me, the grass isn't greener.
In terms of "knowledge", I certainly agree. There's nothing I can't do (via my own volition), that schooling can do better.
From an employment standpoint, unfortunately you can't prove your worth on par with a certified piece of paper.
I agree to a point. I think the CS industry is the most forgiving and has made the best steps for allowing people with our without a degree to show their worth. You can find many startups and modernized tech companies these days that honestly don't care if you have a college degree and I think that's a great thing. Other industries aren't so forgiving, though.
RE: My Advice for Computer Science Students - Jiggly - 07-23-2017
(07-22-2017, 03:58 AM)Asura Wrote:(07-21-2017, 11:32 PM)Jiggly Wrote: One of the hardest things, especially with US colleges/universities, is knowing what it will be like before you're there. At that age, you don't always know the right questions to ask or what to check for.I was very clueless when picking a college at the time. I was 18 (pretty dumb) and fresh out of high school. I definitely didn't know the right questions to ask. ._.
If anyone ever wants help/advice on looking for the right university, I'm no expert, but I might help you look for those things you may not have thought of. I'm doing a master's in higher education
(07-21-2017, 11:59 PM)God Wrote: If you're willing to relocate, you can always check out areas with less competition. Also keep in mind that the people writing job requirements include EVERYTHING. Often times the one writing it may not even have experience within the branch that's hiring. So don't let an absurd amount of experience or skills deter you as just about everyone that's going to apply is missing many.I would relocate but unable to currently thus why I'm only left with warehouse/customer service-like jobs. I admit that looking at the requirements/qualifications do kind of 'scare' me away. I'll keep that in mind next time.
In the meantime if you are in a different industry, it's a good time to work on some side projects and build a portfolio.
Thank you both for your inputs.
You're welcome!
Although, never be afraid to make an application for a job you're not sure you're qualified for. I've recently been meeting with some high-ups at various higher education institutions, and when they tell the stories about how they've got into high end jobs, they all seem to say that they applied for jobs even if they weren't sure. The worst that can happen? You could always say no to it.
RE: My Advice for Computer Science Students - mothered - 07-23-2017
(07-22-2017, 06:22 PM)God Wrote: You can find many startups and modernized tech companies these days that honestly don't care if you have a college degree and I think that's a great thing. Other industries aren't so forgiving, though.
You're pretty much spot on with this comment.
Those who don't take degrees Into account, certainly exist. It's just a matter of being selective when applying with such companies.