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RE: HE WON! - Bloody Eye - 11-10-2016
(11-10-2016, 05:37 AM)insidious Wrote: Just because we're tired of establishment (I am too) doens't mean we should have elected someone who doesn't even believe in Global warming. I've said this in another thread, but that could become a real problem. Seriously.
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I was routing for Bernie in the primaries, but of course the pussy DNC had to have already been leaning towards Hillary. I think Bernie would have crushed Trump in this election, and I wouldn't be scared that the US is going to regress in almost any policy it's made progress for the last few years.
I think the liberal media also had a huge roll in this. For one, they totally alienated the niche of voters who went for Trump in this election. They protrayed Obamas policies and actions as president as way more liberal than they actually were. Sentiments almost blaming this section of the populace (I would point at uneducated white men, not that all who voted for Trump are uneducated white men, but this is where I imagine this sentiment stems from) pcreated an atmosphere of guilt, but moreso created that attitude of "well, not it's not my fault, Fuck You" that made Trumps campaign so easy for him.
Sure, he's totally outspoken and doesn't give a shit. The man can flick off critiques with the twitch of his finger unlike any other politician we have seen lately. But he's unfit for presidency. At least in my opinion.
I can go on and on about things wrong with this guy, but i'll stop.
TL;DR electing a president just to prove a point may feel good now, but in the long run it's going to hurt.
At least it wasn't Hillary, though:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/
Her concession speech was touching:
http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-concession-speech-purple/
RE: HE WON! - Despised - 11-10-2016
I wonder when these trump threads will stop.
RE: HE WON! - Cosvo - 11-10-2016
(11-10-2016, 07:56 AM)Jiggly Wrote:I was very confused when I wrote nuclear xD haha(11-09-2016, 09:10 PM)Cosvo Wrote: That man don't know shit about politics outisde the US... Really hope their ain't gonna be no nukeclear war.. I'm not saying that he is gonna start it, but Russia may have a free lane on attacking Europe while Trump will watch
That's completely untrue. They are allies with the UK, at least (which is in Europe I might add) and they will not allow Russia to break the world. The US wants to maintain European ties for trade etc. While they may build ties with Russia, the ideal is that ties with Russia will reduce the likelihood of war.
Also, just a heads up: "Nukeclear" is spelled "Nuclear"
It's very unlikely a nuclear war will occur since all world leaders are aware of the devastation it will bring and the US is STILL the biggest military force on the planet (unsurprisingly).
But yeh.. No on ecan tell which plans Trump has? North Korea was a democratic country long before those sickos.. But it ended up being one man with evil unexpected plans.. My sister likes Trump. As long as he ain't getting people killed Im okay with it lol
But he is dumb thinking that mexico will pay for the wall
RE: HE WON! - Loki123 - 11-10-2016
(11-10-2016, 04:35 PM)Cosvo Wrote:(11-10-2016, 07:56 AM)Jiggly Wrote:I was very confused when I wrote nuclear xD haha(11-09-2016, 09:10 PM)Cosvo Wrote: That man don't know shit about politics outisde the US... Really hope their ain't gonna be no nukeclear war.. I'm not saying that he is gonna start it, but Russia may have a free lane on attacking Europe while Trump will watch
That's completely untrue. They are allies with the UK, at least (which is in Europe I might add) and they will not allow Russia to break the world. The US wants to maintain European ties for trade etc. While they may build ties with Russia, the ideal is that ties with Russia will reduce the likelihood of war.
Also, just a heads up: "Nukeclear" is spelled "Nuclear"
It's very unlikely a nuclear war will occur since all world leaders are aware of the devastation it will bring and the US is STILL the biggest military force on the planet (unsurprisingly).
But yeh.. No on ecan tell which plans Trump has? North Korea was a democratic country long before those sickos.. But it ended up being one man with evil unexpected plans.. My sister likes Trump. As long as he ain't getting people killed Im okay with it lol
But he is dumb thinking that mexico will pay for the wall
Uhhhh, this vote has so much more impact on other countries than most people, especially is the usa, do not get.
Trump has questioned trading agreements and threatened to pull usa out of the world trading organization. Pretty big fuck you to asia in general. China is just going to rise and become more and more powerful, Japan, who depend on USA will need to defend themselves against China and nukes are a real possibility.
My theory, Trump as president will start a war in asia.
RE: HE WON! - Bloody Eye - 11-11-2016
(11-10-2016, 04:35 PM)Cosvo Wrote:(11-10-2016, 07:56 AM)Jiggly Wrote:I was very confused when I wrote nuclear xD haha(11-09-2016, 09:10 PM)Cosvo Wrote: That man don't know shit about politics outisde the US... Really hope their ain't gonna be no nukeclear war.. I'm not saying that he is gonna start it, but Russia may have a free lane on attacking Europe while Trump will watch
That's completely untrue. They are allies with the UK, at least (which is in Europe I might add) and they will not allow Russia to break the world. The US wants to maintain European ties for trade etc. While they may build ties with Russia, the ideal is that ties with Russia will reduce the likelihood of war.
Also, just a heads up: "Nukeclear" is spelled "Nuclear"
It's very unlikely a nuclear war will occur since all world leaders are aware of the devastation it will bring and the US is STILL the biggest military force on the planet (unsurprisingly).
But yeh.. No on ecan tell which plans Trump has? North Korea was a democratic country long before those sickos.. But it ended up being one man with evil unexpected plans.. My sister likes Trump. As long as he ain't getting people killed Im okay with it lol
But he is dumb thinking that mexico will pay for the wall
I figure the wall would be covered, through renegotiation of NAFTA.
RE: HE WON! - meow - 11-11-2016
(11-09-2016, 09:10 PM)Cosvo Wrote: That man don't know shit about politics outisde the US... Really hope their ain't gonna be no nukeclear war.. I'm not saying that he is gonna start it, but Russia may have a free lane on attacking Europe while Trump will watch
Hillary was the warmonger, not Trump. If Europe continues to import migrants at the rates they have in the past few years, within a few decades that whole continent will be majority Muslim and/or sandnigger. I wouldn't mind watching it burn either. Watching it burn is certainly more beneficial than going to war with Russia.
(11-09-2016, 09:38 PM)817_091_278 Wrote: I'm simply glad that the establishment are getting slowly ruined. I agree that Hillary Clinton is more competent and more intelligent, but she sucks up to money.
She's only intelligent in the sense that she knows what to do in order to maximize the advantage that the democratic party will have in the future. Is this a good thing? No. She's willing to open borders to do this, just take a look at France, Germany, or Sweden to get a clear picture of what that would be like. Not to mention that the drug trade happening at the south border of the US would be expanded exponentially if borders were open.
(11-10-2016, 05:37 AM)insidious Wrote: Just because we're tired of establishment (I am too) doens't mean we should have elected someone who doesn't even believe in Global warming. I've said this in another thread, but that could become a real problem. Seriously.
/\/
I was routing for Bernie in the primaries, but of course the pussy DNC had to have already been leaning towards Hillary. I think Bernie would have crushed Trump in this election, and I wouldn't be scared that the US is going to regress in almost any policy it's made progress for the last few years.
I think the liberal media also had a huge roll in this. For one, they totally alienated the niche of voters who went for Trump in this election. They protrayed Obamas policies and actions as president as way more liberal than they actually were. Sentiments almost blaming this section of the populace (I would point at uneducated white men, not that all who voted for Trump are uneducated white men, but this is where I imagine this sentiment stems from) pcreated an atmosphere of guilt, but moreso created that attitude of "well, not it's not my fault, Fuck You" that made Trumps campaign so easy for him.
Sure, he's totally outspoken and doesn't give a shit. The man can flick off critiques with the twitch of his finger unlike any other politician we have seen lately. But he's unfit for presidency. At least in my opinion.
I can go on and on about things wrong with this guy, but i'll stop.
TL;DR electing a president just to prove a point may feel good now, but in the long run it's going to hurt.
Global warming is a non-issue in politics. Leave that to the scientists please.
Bernie was a socialist and most if not all of his policies were socialistic, not to mention that most of the things he proposed would annihilate the US economy and create more unemployment and vacancies than there already are. I don't think Bernie would've destroyed Trump, a large majority of Bernie fans were teenagers not even old enough to vote who heard the words "free college" and immediately began to follow him. Anyone with experience or even knowledge in economics wouldn't think twice about not voting for him.
The only thing liberal media accomplished in this election was creating a false sense of what Trump would be like if he were elected, feeding liberals the idea that Trump was a sexist and racist moron that would completely destroy the country, which is obviously incorrect, unless you'd like to say that 59,937,338 people in the US are in favor of a sexist and racist moron that would completely destroy the country. This spoon feeding of idiotic agendas is what caused the massive amounts of protesting, riots, and bitterness following the election.
Trump wasn't elected to "prove a point", he was elected because people would like a change.
"But he's unfit for presidency" - elaborate, please.
(11-10-2016, 07:56 AM)Jiggly Wrote: That's completely untrue. They are allies with the UK, at least (which is in Europe I might add) and they will not allow Russia to break the world. The US wants to maintain European ties for trade etc. While they may build ties with Russia, the ideal is that ties with Russia will reduce the likelihood of war.
Also, just a heads up: "Nukeclear" is spelled "Nuclear"
It's very unlikely a nuclear war will occur since all world leaders are aware of the devastation it will bring and the US is STILL the biggest military force on the planet (unsurprisingly).
Only good post on this whole thread.
(11-10-2016, 08:00 AM)Jiggly Wrote: It's is horrible that he's President...
Elaborate please.
(11-10-2016, 04:35 PM)Cosvo Wrote: But yeh.. No on ecan tell which plans Trump has?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/nov/10/donald-trumps-campaign-promises-first-100-days/
(11-10-2016, 04:35 PM)Cosvo Wrote: But he is dumb thinking that mexico will pay for the wall
They're certainly under full obligation to do so considering the amount of money that illegals have taken and are currently taking from the US and bringing back to Mexico. They either will willfully pay for it, or they will be forced to pay for it.
(11-10-2016, 10:49 PM)Loki123 Wrote: China is just going to rise and become more and more powerful
Without the US importing products from them? Don't make me laugh.
RE: HE WON! - Loki123 - 11-11-2016
(11-11-2016, 03:08 AM)meow Wrote:(11-10-2016, 10:49 PM)Loki123 Wrote: China is just going to rise and become more and more powerful
Without the US importing products from them? Don't make me laugh.
Trump is going to set about 45% tax on imports from china. That is something that might start off a trade war.
If a trade war starts, you will see a big impact on the united states. Estimated 640,000 jobs in california could be lost. Think about the whole country.
China will also suffer due to that however, not as much as the united states as they can still hold on to their trade agreements with Europe but Trump has as well put several large deals with Europe in danger.
I'd like to mention that, a trade war involving the worlds largest economies, usa and china, won't be good for any country in the world. Especially not for the us. I can't see how you or anyone can actually defend that action.
RE: HE WON! - insidious - 11-11-2016
(11-11-2016, 03:08 AM)meow Wrote: Trump wasn't elected to "prove a point", he was elected because people would like a change.
Didn't say that
I mean that if OP voted/supported Trump just to prove a point, that is wrong or, I don't think, why one should vote for a president.
RE: HE WON! - Jiggly - 11-11-2016
When I say Trump being president is horrible, is purely on the basis of the scandals. Somebody in power usually should show moral high-ground etc. However, it's 2016 and the world doesn't always function that way.
I'm very concerned with the reaction and utterly disgusted by people's behaviour.
RE: HE WON! - Null() - 11-11-2016
I'm not all that concerned about Trump being a president as he's not even half as bad as Hillary Clinton, but both aren't very good so to say. Though, there's some things that may turn out well if Trump plays his c ards right, such as the situation with Russia may improve and just that may make the world a bit safer - but all of that's hard to say and speculate about right now.