(10-13-2016, 04:38 PM)Primitive Wrote:

(10-13-2016, 04:55 AM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-03-2016, 11:26 AM)mothered Wrote: For this reason alone, I wouldn't purchase It.

That said, I must say It Is a very attractive looking phone and based solely on appearance, It's very enticing.

I'm going to have to interject here. Sure, one may have twice the available system memory but how much of that is usable? 512mb of ram is still perfectly acceptable for a linux system yet a windows system won't even boot with that. It's the same with xnu vs jre. Java requires a fuckload of overhead, whereas direct execution (with a small runtime) on iOS does not.

(10-03-2016, 12:50 PM)Bish0pQ Wrote: Iphone is overrated and overpriced. There are way better android phones on the market that would beat the Iphone7 on several tests.

The battery dies quicker after every update and that's just the beginning. They don't even have headphone jacks. I love my headphones so it will be a NO for me.
We have to admit that they're pretty sneaky and smart though. Only reason that they won't provide headphone jacks is so they can make more profit from their own (new) wireless headphones, which is pretty smart if you ask me, but still, they're just scamming everyone. That's what I think about it.

I like OSx (sometimes), but I pretty much dislike every Iphone.

Performance wise sure, I'll admit that there are better phones out there, but I'd rather own a blackberry than an android phone. The reason why comes down to security. As somebody who spent a good deal of my professional experience doing nothing but breaking the security of mobile devices, it would just be counterproductive to own the least secure device class on the market. the iPhone, while it does have its holes, is far more secure than any android phone you're ever going to find.

"They don't even have headphone jacks. I love my headphones so it will be a NO for me."
Actually, yes they do. the iPhone 7 switched from analog to digital audio. If you've got a good sound card you'll notice the jack with the red light in it. That's full digital audio, the same as the 7. I've had a chance to play with it a few times and I can notice a massive difference, and I love it. You fandroids love to bash apple when they lag behind on certain technologies, yet you also bash on them when they discontinue and replace old technologies?
"so they can make more profit from their own (new) wireless headphones"
Not true, the wireless headphones (for one, suck) weren't intended to be the primary. Plug in a set of digital headphones and you'll notice a difference.

Your only argument, from what I have deduced, for purchasing an iPhone is simply due to the security. That is simply because the iOS from the userland aspect is sandboxed. Android OS runs on an open environment. That inherently makes makes the OS less vulnerable. Although, you then sacrifice customization and control from your device.

Jailbreaking an iPhone opens up the sandbox and I guarantee if MobileSubstrate wasn't there as a platform for third party tweaks, malicious code would be much more prevalent because it would be directly injected into the main OS. Not to mention, jailbreaking is innately a massive vulnerability in the OS.

(10-13-2016, 10:13 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-13-2016, 04:38 PM)Primitive Wrote:

(10-13-2016, 04:55 AM)phyrrus9 Wrote: I'm going to have to interject here. Sure, one may have twice the available system memory but how much of that is usable? 512mb of ram is still perfectly acceptable for a linux system yet a windows system won't even boot with that. It's the same with xnu vs jre. Java requires a fuckload of overhead, whereas direct execution (with a small runtime) on iOS does not.


Performance wise sure, I'll admit that there are better phones out there, but I'd rather own a blackberry than an android phone. The reason why comes down to security. As somebody who spent a good deal of my professional experience doing nothing but breaking the security of mobile devices, it would just be counterproductive to own the least secure device class on the market. the iPhone, while it does have its holes, is far more secure than any android phone you're ever going to find.

"They don't even have headphone jacks. I love my headphones so it will be a NO for me."
Actually, yes they do. the iPhone 7 switched from analog to digital audio. If you've got a good sound card you'll notice the jack with the red light in it. That's full digital audio, the same as the 7. I've had a chance to play with it a few times and I can notice a massive difference, and I love it. You fandroids love to bash apple when they lag behind on certain technologies, yet you also bash on them when they discontinue and replace old technologies?
"so they can make more profit from their own (new) wireless headphones"
Not true, the wireless headphones (for one, suck) weren't intended to be the primary. Plug in a set of digital headphones and you'll notice a difference.

Your only argument, from what I have deduced, for purchasing an iPhone is simply due to the security. That is simply because the iOS from the userland aspect is sandboxed. Android OS runs on an open environment. That inherently makes makes the OS less vulnerable. Although, you then sacrifice customization and control from your device.

Jailbreaking an iPhone opens up the sandbox and I guarantee if MobileSubstrate wasn't there as a platform for third party tweaks, malicious code would be much more prevalent because it would be directly injected into the main OS. Not to mention, jailbreaking  is innately a massive vulnerability in the OS.

I'm curious to see where you're getting your information because both of those points are incorrect. cydiasubstrate is the platform that allows dyld injection, without it you would have to manually patch the shared cache for every binary (we can't turn off AMFI anymore).
Jailbreaking itself is not a massive vulnerability, yes it uses existing ones to get certain patches applied but that's all a jailbreak is. You may be right when talking about jailbreak tools which do much more (and sometimes rather shady things) after the jailbreak is applied such as installing the bsd subsys and cydia, however even on that point the jailbreak tools ive worked on all include patches for the holes we used to get in. So in a way, jailbreaking your device makes it more secure by closing the holes used to jailbreak it.