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RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - Diabwolf - 02-24-2011
This is much like the (i Dare you to.....) stuff but it works
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - 1llusion - 02-24-2011
(02-24-2011, 08:19 PM)Diabwolf Wrote: This is much like the (i Dare you to.....) stuff but it works
yup
peoples mind is still not developed against exploiting 
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - 1llusion - 03-12-2011
(03-12-2011, 06:39 AM)endTrance Wrote: I will definitely try and put this into practice... This holds potential ^^
It does
sadly many don't think it could really work :/
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - 1llusion - 03-12-2011
(03-12-2011, 06:39 AM)endTrance Wrote: I will definitely try and put this into practice... This holds potential ^^
It does
sadly many don't think it could really work :/
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - Magnetron - 04-03-2011
NLP is bullshit, any scientist or anyone educated in the definition of science will tell you NLP, as well as all of psychology is a pseudoscience. If you wanna "reprogram" someones brain, buy some slick wetware if that even exists yet, lol.
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - 1llusion - 04-03-2011
(04-03-2011, 04:10 PM)Magnetron Wrote: NLP is bullshit, any scientist or anyone educated in the definition of science will tell you NLP, as well as all of psychology is a pseudoscience. If you wanna "reprogram" someones brain, buy some slick wetware if that even exists yet, lol.
finally some1 who disagrees Well, you can't say it doesn't work
That it works is proved, now the question is, why?I do believe in psychology and NLP since I saw people being massively manipulated and as you said "reprogrammed". You can look in modern history to see examples: Hitler, Stalin, Mao... These people were awesome social engineers, sadly, they used it for bad things...
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - Magnetron - 04-03-2011
What worked on one guy wont necessarily work on someone else. NLP has been massively discredited and rejected by mainstream medicine because it failed all controlled tests. You are simply stuck with aimlessly trying this junk therapy on patients hoping it will work, much like a fortune teller session where the psychic cleverly keeps guessing until she finally gets something about your personal life right, and going on from there with vague generalizations and continual disguised-guessing ritual until she seemingly nails every fact down seemingly from thin-air, which will impress the illiterate but not reasonably educated people.
I don't disagree that social engineering is a useful skill, but when you started calling it "science" is what sparked my attention, because using anything psychological in the same sentence as "science" is a pretty funny oxymoron, lol.
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - 1llusion - 04-03-2011
(04-03-2011, 08:29 PM)Magnetron Wrote: What worked on one guy wont necessarily work on someone else. NLP has been massively discredited and rejected by mainstream medicine because it failed all controlled tests. You are simply stuck with aimlessly trying this junk therapy on patients hoping it will work, much like a fortune teller session where the psychic cleverly keeps guessing until she finally gets something about your personal life right, and going on from there with vague generalizations and continual disguised-guessing ritual until she seemingly nails every fact down seemingly from thin-air, which will impress the illiterate but not reasonably educated people.
I don't disagree that social engineering is a useful skill, but when you started calling it "science" is what sparked my attention, because using anything psychological in the same sentence as "science" is a pretty funny oxymoron, lol.
sorry for that, but I do call it science
possibly because my teacher calls it like that too anyway, I do trust in NLP working, yes, it might seem as fortune telling, but by my experience, it worked.
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - Magnetron - 04-03-2011
Quote:sorry for that, but I do call it science Smile possibly because my teacher calls it like that too XD
Your teacher is uninformed, or you guys lack a word for science in your country (I noticed you had an accent in your video tutorial).
Quote:anyway, I do trust in NLP working, yes, it might seem as fortune telling, but by my experience, it worked. Smile
Your experience is irrelevant, these techniques have been tested by many scholars, and all of them came to the same conclusion that it is bogus. If the brain could be reprogrammed with just verbal techniques, we would have a cure for every mental illness and delusion known to man, and all mental hospitals would be emptied tomorrow.
RE: Neuro-linguistic programming - 1llusion - 04-03-2011
(04-03-2011, 10:31 PM)Magnetron Wrote:Quote:sorry for that, but I do call it science Smile possibly because my teacher calls it like that too XD
Your teacher is uninformed, or you guys lack a word for science in your country (I noticed you had an accent in your video tutorial).
Quote:anyway, I do trust in NLP working, yes, it might seem as fortune telling, but by my experience, it worked. Smile
Your experience is irrelevant, these techniques have been tested by many scholars, and all of them came to the same conclusion that it is bogus. If the brain could be reprogrammed with just verbal techniques, we would have a cure for every mental illness and delusion known to man, and all mental hospitals would be emptied tomorrow.
I would rather say its matter of opinion
Well, you can't re-program basic body functions, but you can actually heal people verbally. You can heal depression and illnesses of similar nature verbally.
As I stated, to achieve the goal, you must do it slowly. Its not like: you sit down and create a new mind in an hour. The person must first start believing in the thing you try to say him. Slowly like this, you are able to even gain control of him