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RE: is FTID dead? - giacobmx - 03-06-2024

(03-06-2024, 07:48 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 02:25 PM)giacobmx Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 07:38 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote: I just followed the FTID v3 guide. Edited pretty much everyting except the barcode. I was kinda expecting it to fail since it was a first one, and I sent an empty envelope for a quite heavy and large item. The item wasn't very expensive though, only ~100 euro. Obviously they investigare more if it's a pricier item so you might want to add some weight.


Did you edit the tracking number also? Wich is basically the barcode i think?

Yeah I edited that one aswell. Just changed 2-3 numbers in the middle.
Ok so you just leave the tracking number barcode intact, put a different address near to the original place, and fake everything else like your name/address, tracking number, qr code…
I would fear a bit that the courier/post office clerk can notice something wrong in the label/data on their screen…


RE: is FTID dead? - VeryHandsomeFrog - 03-07-2024

(03-06-2024, 09:34 PM)giacobmx Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 07:48 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 02:25 PM)giacobmx Wrote: Did you edit the tracking number also? Wich is basically the barcode i think?

Yeah I edited that one aswell. Just changed 2-3 numbers in the middle.
Ok so you just leave the tracking number barcode intact, put a different address near to the original place, and fake everything else like your name/address, tracking number, qr code…
I would fear a bit that the courier/post office clerk can notice something wrong in the label/data on their screen…

Correct. That was my worry aswell but basically for me they just scan the parcel and hand over the receipt. I have never encountered a clerk that examined the label. In these cases, remeber that hundreds of people come by every day and drop off stuff, they don't have time for it.

IF they start questioning the label, just say it was like that when you got it, they can't prove anything. Just ask to have the package back and take it home again.


RE: is FTID dead? - giacobmx - 03-07-2024

(03-07-2024, 01:58 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 09:34 PM)giacobmx Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 07:48 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote: Yeah I edited that one aswell. Just changed 2-3 numbers in the middle.
Ok so you just leave the tracking number barcode intact, put a different address near to the original place, and fake everything else like your name/address, tracking number, qr code…
I would fear a bit that the courier/post office clerk can notice something wrong in the label/data on their screen…

Correct. That was my worry aswell but basically for me they just scan the parcel and hand over the receipt. I have never encountered a clerk that examined the label. In these cases, remeber that hundreds of people come by every day and drop off stuff, they don't have time for it.

IF they start questioning the label, just say it was like that when you got it, they can't prove anything. Just ask to have the package back and take it home again.
Thanks, yes in case they notice something you can always take back the package to ““check””at home..


RE: is FTID dead? - dabaoz9 - 03-07-2024

(03-06-2024, 07:48 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 02:25 PM)giacobmx Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 07:38 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote: I just followed the FTID v3 guide. Edited pretty much everyting except the barcode. I was kinda expecting it to fail since it was a first one, and I sent an empty envelope for a quite heavy and large item. The item wasn't very expensive though, only ~100 euro. Obviously they investigare more if it's a pricier item so you might want to add some weight.


Did you edit the tracking number also? Wich is basically the barcode i think?

Yeah I edited that one aswell. Just changed 2-3 numbers in the middle.
So you only edit the tracking number but not the barcode or QR code? What if the delivery driver physically scan the barcode for the real address instead of reading the edited fake adjacent address and have this fake envelop/box send to the real retailer address?


RE: is FTID dead? - VeryHandsomeFrog - 03-08-2024

(03-07-2024, 08:36 PM)dabaoz9 Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 07:48 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 02:25 PM)giacobmx Wrote: Did you edit the tracking number also? Wich is basically the barcode i think?

Yeah I edited that one aswell. Just changed 2-3 numbers in the middle.
So you only edit the tracking number but not the barcode or QR code? What if the delivery driver physically scan the barcode for the real address instead of reading the edited fake adjacent address and have this fake envelop/box send to the real retailer address?

You can edit the qr code. Think it depends on the delivering company. Just try for yourself, there is no conclusion to this.


RE: is FTID dead? - VeryHandsomeFrog - 03-15-2024

(03-05-2024, 07:38 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 02:07 PM)Nebber Wrote:
(03-01-2024, 06:41 AM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote: It's not dead, did my first one and got the refund yesterday. Very smooth.
Only ever tried myself once and failed. How did you go about it?

Did another FTID which seems to be really messed up haha. This parcel also had a QR-code on it, which the idiot I am didn't do any changes to. So now the package has been going back and forward between two (?) shops.
Tracking said delivered to 'X', then when I was about to ask the shop for a refund after two weeks, the package went back to 'in transit' and got delivered to 'Y'. And it doesn't stop there, now it's back at 'X'  xD
No idea how to get out of this one. Might do a PP-claim if the shop doesn't refund, saying that it got delivered, or is it a bad idea?

Also I made a third FTID with Klarna which seems to work fine for now, package got delivered. With Klarna you can even add the tracking info, and they even say they side with the buyer if it says delivered and no refund ha been issued. With this parcel I edited the QR-code until it wasn't scanable anymore. Other than that I edited everything as usual.
We'll see how it goes.
Update:
Alright so both FTID got successful!
Made a PP-claim on the first one, the seller didn't respond so I won the claim after like a week. Item worth 400€.

The other one I opened a chat with customer service, they said the return was stuck (although tracking said delivered) and that they would investigate. Got the refund the next day. Didn't have to go through Klarna. Item worth 250€.

Today was a good day  Cool


RE: is FTID dead? - a1khn - 04-08-2024

(03-15-2024, 11:56 AM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 07:38 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 02:07 PM)Nebber Wrote: Only ever tried myself once and failed. How did you go about it?

Did another FTID which seems to be really messed up haha. This parcel also had a QR-code on it, which the idiot I am didn't do any changes to. So now the package has been going back and forward between two (?) shops.
Tracking said delivered to 'X', then when I was about to ask the shop for a refund after two weeks, the package went back to 'in transit' and got delivered to 'Y'. And it doesn't stop there, now it's back at 'X'  xD
No idea how to get out of this one. Might do a PP-claim if the shop doesn't refund, saying that it got delivered, or is it a bad idea?

Also I made a third FTID with Klarna which seems to work fine for now, package got delivered. With Klarna you can even add the tracking info, and they even say they side with the buyer if it says delivered and no refund ha been issued. With this parcel I edited the QR-code until it wasn't scanable anymore. Other than that I edited everything as usual.
We'll see how it goes.
Update:
Alright so both FTID got successful!
Made a PP-claim on the first one, the seller didn't respond so I won the claim after like a week. Item worth 400€.

The other one I opened a chat with customer service, they said the return was stuck (although tracking said delivered) and that they would investigate. Got the refund the next day. Didn't have to go through Klarna. Item worth 250€.

Today was a good day  Cool

Hi how would you possibly edit a qr code because the whole point of the qr code is so that they scan it and print the label for you at the delivery office and if you edit it then the person won’t be able to scan it so how do you edit a qr code without this sort of problem.


RE: is FTID dead? - maddylok - 04-09-2024

i've done 3 big ftids last month


RE: is FTID dead? - Nebber - 04-16-2024

(03-15-2024, 11:56 AM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 07:38 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-05-2024, 02:07 PM)Nebber Wrote: Only ever tried myself once and failed. How did you go about it?

Did another FTID which seems to be really messed up haha. This parcel also had a QR-code on it, which the idiot I am didn't do any changes to. So now the package has been going back and forward between two (?) shops.
Tracking said delivered to 'X', then when I was about to ask the shop for a refund after two weeks, the package went back to 'in transit' and got delivered to 'Y'. And it doesn't stop there, now it's back at 'X'  xD
No idea how to get out of this one. Might do a PP-claim if the shop doesn't refund, saying that it got delivered, or is it a bad idea?

Also I made a third FTID with Klarna which seems to work fine for now, package got delivered. With Klarna you can even add the tracking info, and they even say they side with the buyer if it says delivered and no refund ha been issued. With this parcel I edited the QR-code until it wasn't scanable anymore. Other than that I edited everything as usual.
We'll see how it goes.
Update:
Alright so both FTID got successful!
Made a PP-claim on the first one, the seller didn't respond so I won the claim after like a week. Item worth 400€.

The other one I opened a chat with customer service, they said the return was stuck (although tracking said delivered) and that they would investigate. Got the refund the next day. Didn't have to go through Klarna. Item worth 250€.

Today was a good day  Cool

Nice! I'm going to try again over the next few weeks


RE: is FTID dead? - Elsdebo - 04-19-2024

(03-08-2024, 04:46 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote:
(03-07-2024, 08:36 PM)dabaoz9 Wrote:
(03-06-2024, 07:48 PM)VeryHandsomeFrog Wrote: Yeah I edited that one aswell. Just changed 2-3 numbers in the middle.
So you only edit the tracking number but not the barcode or QR code? What if the delivery driver physically scan the barcode for the real address instead of reading the edited fake adjacent address and have this fake envelop/box send to the real retailer address?

You can edit the qr code. Think it depends on the delivering company. Just try for yourself, there is no conclusion to this.

Some courriers have specific QR-code formats and can't read other formats. So if you use a generic QR-code to replace the original one, it might fail.