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RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - elixir - 09-16-2023
If you’re doing it for free, what do you require from x person?
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - HeadxHunter - 09-16-2023
What's the catch m8.... I'd like to know.
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - Pluntkin - 09-17-2023
(09-16-2023, 02:55 AM)elixir Wrote: If you’re doing it for free, what do you require from x person?I'd want to know how long it took for the refund to hit, and how much they refunded.
Vouches would be a nice to have.
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - Saffron - 09-17-2023
Just my 2c...
Why would a sane SE-er use these refunding services when... you're conspiring to commit fraud by sharing your personal details with a stranger who very well may be LE.
It is a well know fact that LE are more than willing to impersonate anyone as long as that helps their careers, and some of them are true maniacs.
So not saying that these pro refunders are LE, but some of them might be, and that should keep you from ever sharing your details in any implicating context.
Maybe ask yourself - would @mothered use such a service... ever?
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - Pluntkin - 09-17-2023
(09-17-2023, 05:26 PM)Saffron Wrote: Just my 2c...People have been using professional refunding services for years now, and if they were honeypots, we would know by this point, simply from watching the news.
Why would a sane SE-er use these refunding services when... you're conspiring to commit fraud by sharing your personal details with a stranger who very well may be LE.
It is a well know fact that LE are more than willing to impersonate anyone as long as that helps their careers, and some of them are true maniacs.
So not saying that these pro refunders are LE, but some of them might be, and that should keep you from ever sharing your details in any implicating context.
Maybe ask yourself - would @mothered use such a service... ever?
If law enforcement wanted to arrest the customers of professional refunding services, they wouldn't bother with starting a honeypot refunding service, they would simply subpoena Google for all of the order information that customers of professional refunding services submitted through Google Forms. Every single professional refunder that I've ever seen is using Google Forms for order submissions, and using Google Sheets for organizing that data into a spreadsheet.
The majority of these people are probably using their real names, real email addresses, real phone numbers, and so forth. Very risky.
Therefore, any personal information you submit to a professional refunder is in the possession of Google. All of that information is available to the police on request. The fact that this information is available to them, yet you don't hear any stories in the news about people being arrested for refunding, goes to show that the police aren't interested in investigating it. It's not a priority for them.
That said, I would never use Google Forms, simply because the police might actually decide to investigate it someday.
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - HeadxHunter - 09-17-2023
(09-17-2023, 11:04 PM)Pluntkin Wrote:(09-17-2023, 05:26 PM)Saffron Wrote: Just my 2c...People have been using professional refunding services for years now, and if they were honeypots, we would know by this point, simply from watching the news.
Why would a sane SE-er use these refunding services when... you're conspiring to commit fraud by sharing your personal details with a stranger who very well may be LE.
It is a well know fact that LE are more than willing to impersonate anyone as long as that helps their careers, and some of them are true maniacs.
So not saying that these pro refunders are LE, but some of them might be, and that should keep you from ever sharing your details in any implicating context.
Maybe ask yourself - would @mothered use such a service... ever?
If law enforcement wanted to arrest the customers of professional refunding services, they wouldn't bother with starting a honeypot refunding service, they would simply subpoena Google for all of the order information that customers of professional refunding services submitted through Google Forms. Every single professional refunder that I've ever seen is using Google Forms for order submissions, and using Google Sheets for organizing that data into a spreadsheet.
The majority of these people are probably using their real names, real email addresses, real phone numbers, and so forth. Very risky.
Therefore, any personal information you submit to a professional refunder is in the possession of Google. All of that information is available to the police on request. The fact that this information is available to them, yet you don't hear any stories in the news about people being arrested for refunding, goes to show that the police aren't interested in investigating it. It's not a priority for them.
That said, I would never use Google Forms, simply because the police might actually decide to investigate it someday.
Also sinister.li is public, and it's relatively easy to phish or find peoples real identity here with the right tools.
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - InternetRockStar - 09-18-2023
(09-17-2023, 05:26 PM)Saffron Wrote: Just my 2c...
Why would a sane SE-er use these refunding services when... you're conspiring to commit fraud by sharing your personal details with a stranger who very well may be LE.
It is a well know fact that LE are more than willing to impersonate anyone as long as that helps their careers, and some of them are true maniacs.
So not saying that these pro refunders are LE, but some of them might be, and that should keep you from ever sharing your details in any implicating context.
Maybe ask yourself - would @mothered use such a service... ever?
Man have you ever seen target their funny as hell
He really wait for you to steal 1,500 worth of stuff and then come an darrest you just so they can make sure that it's a felony
(09-17-2023, 11:04 PM)Pluntkin Wrote:(09-17-2023, 05:26 PM)Saffron Wrote: Just my 2c...People have been using professional refunding services for years now, and if they were honeypots, we would know by this point, simply from watching the news.
Why would a sane SE-er use these refunding services when... you're conspiring to commit fraud by sharing your personal details with a stranger who very well may be LE.
It is a well know fact that LE are more than willing to impersonate anyone as long as that helps their careers, and some of them are true maniacs.
So not saying that these pro refunders are LE, but some of them might be, and that should keep you from ever sharing your details in any implicating context.
Maybe ask yourself - would @mothered use such a service... ever?
If law enforcement wanted to arrest the customers of professional refunding services, they wouldn't bother with starting a honeypot refunding service, they would simply subpoena Google for all of the order information that customers of professional refunding services submitted through Google Forms. Every single professional refunder that I've ever seen is using Google Forms for order submissions, and using Google Sheets for organizing that data into a spreadsheet.
The majority of these people are probably using their real names, real email addresses, real phone numbers, and so forth. Very risky.
Therefore, any personal information you submit to a professional refunder is in the possession of Google. All of that information is available to the police on request. The fact that this information is available to them, yet you don't hear any stories in the news about people being arrested for refunding, goes to show that the police aren't interested in investigating it. It's not a priority for them.
That said, I would never use Google Forms, simply because the police might actually decide to investigate it someday.
Man there's so many ways to catch people People who use Google forms are honestly clowns I cannot believe people actually do that.
So many of these refunders as well will literally post your order and leave either the order amount and dates or the order number They're literally asking for you to go to jail
(09-17-2023, 11:48 PM)HeadxHunter Wrote:(09-17-2023, 11:04 PM)Pluntkin Wrote:(09-17-2023, 05:26 PM)Saffron Wrote: Just my 2c...People have been using professional refunding services for years now, and if they were honeypots, we would know by this point, simply from watching the news.
Why would a sane SE-er use these refunding services when... you're conspiring to commit fraud by sharing your personal details with a stranger who very well may be LE.
It is a well know fact that LE are more than willing to impersonate anyone as long as that helps their careers, and some of them are true maniacs.
So not saying that these pro refunders are LE, but some of them might be, and that should keep you from ever sharing your details in any implicating context.
Maybe ask yourself - would @mothered use such a service... ever?
If law enforcement wanted to arrest the customers of professional refunding services, they wouldn't bother with starting a honeypot refunding service, they would simply subpoena Google for all of the order information that customers of professional refunding services submitted through Google Forms. Every single professional refunder that I've ever seen is using Google Forms for order submissions, and using Google Sheets for organizing that data into a spreadsheet.
The majority of these people are probably using their real names, real email addresses, real phone numbers, and so forth. Very risky.
Therefore, any personal information you submit to a professional refunder is in the possession of Google. All of that information is available to the police on request. The fact that this information is available to them, yet you don't hear any stories in the news about people being arrested for refunding, goes to show that the police aren't interested in investigating it. It's not a priority for them.
That said, I would never use Google Forms, simply because the police might actually decide to investigate it someday.
Also sinister.li is public, and it's relatively easy to phish or find peoples real identity here with the right tools.
Don't forget sinister ly whole database got dropped a few years ago
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - Saffron - 09-19-2023
(09-18-2023, 12:03 PM)Juice WRLD Wrote: Don't forget sinister ly whole database got dropped a few years agoHow do you mean? What happened?
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - InternetRockStar - 09-19-2023
(09-19-2023, 05:58 PM)Saffron Wrote:(09-18-2023, 12:03 PM)Juice WRLD Wrote: Don't forget sinister ly whole database got dropped a few years agoHow do you mean? What happened?
Bro you didn't know a few years ago all of the data got leaked the database got dropped all the passwords date of birth information etc all dropped
RE: I'm offering free refunds. All stores accepted. - Pluntkin - 09-27-2023
Bump. Free refunds going strong.