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RE: Bank SE Suspicion - Bobbydrax - 03-04-2023
(03-01-2023, 06:59 PM)justoutsider Wrote: Hello Guys. So recently i have hit so many SE's here and there, and for every hit i'm using different VCC's (Revolut). As the account number stays the same, can bank raise suspicion and see that i have got soo soo many refunds? Doesn anyone got any experience in this? Thanks
PS since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpress as theyre so easy to hit, so also having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
lmao bro 60 rf?? What did you order ?if you don't mind telling us
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - justoutsider - 03-04-2023
(03-04-2023, 09:45 PM)2ndround Wrote:(03-04-2023, 09:44 PM)justoutsider Wrote:(03-04-2023, 09:42 PM)2ndround Wrote: A girl I know often makes 5+ legit returns each month.
She orders several items at once, sometimes keeps one, sometimes all and sometimes none and returns everything.
Free returns and courier collections have increased try and buy shopping a lot in recent years, especially for women.
I switched to Wise, a great alternative for Revolut, will have some refunds there as revolut is in a little cooldown.
Nice, do they have unlimited and disposable vccs?
Agreed that it is too much and could be seen as suscpicious.
Yeah they do, which is great.
(03-04-2023, 09:48 PM)aidandv Wrote:(03-01-2023, 06:59 PM)justoutsider Wrote: Hello Guys. So recently i have hit so many SE's here and there, and for every hit i'm using different VCC's (Revolut). As the account number stays the same, can bank raise suspicion and see that i have got soo soo many refunds? Doesn anyone got any experience in this? ThanksAre you using different address too?
PS since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpress as theyre so easy to hit, so also having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
On aliexpress no, i dont know how i got to 60 refunds without no triuble. On amazon and asos i do change address for every SE. Asos always comes in relay points so i just change them. On amazon i just put random address, and 30mins before arriving i just wait for my package at that random place
(03-04-2023, 10:35 PM)Bobbydrax Wrote:(03-01-2023, 06:59 PM)justoutsider Wrote: Hello Guys. So recently i have hit so many SE's here and there, and for every hit i'm using different VCC's (Revolut). As the account number stays the same, can bank raise suspicion and see that i have got soo soo many refunds? Doesn anyone got any experience in this? Thanks
PS since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpress as theyre so easy to hit, so also having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
lmao bro 60 rf?? What did you order ?if you don't mind telling us
Its span of like 6 months. Some pc parts, home stuff, watches, cpu...you name it.
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - Bobbydrax - 03-04-2023
(03-04-2023, 11:29 PM)justoutsider Wrote:(03-04-2023, 09:45 PM)2ndround Wrote:(03-04-2023, 09:44 PM)justoutsider Wrote: I switched to Wise, a great alternative for Revolut, will have some refunds there as revolut is in a little cooldown.
Nice, do they have unlimited and disposable vccs?
Agreed that it is too much and could be seen as suscpicious.
Yeah they do, which is great.
(03-04-2023, 09:48 PM)aidandv Wrote:(03-01-2023, 06:59 PM)justoutsider Wrote: Hello Guys. So recently i have hit so many SE's here and there, and for every hit i'm using different VCC's (Revolut). As the account number stays the same, can bank raise suspicion and see that i have got soo soo many refunds? Doesn anyone got any experience in this? ThanksAre you using different address too?
PS since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpress as theyre so easy to hit, so also having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
On aliexpress no, i dont know how i got to 60 refunds without no triuble. On amazon and asos i do change address for every SE. Asos always comes in relay points so i just change them. On amazon i just put random address, and 30mins before arriving i just wait for my package at that random place
(03-04-2023, 10:35 PM)Bobbydrax Wrote:(03-01-2023, 06:59 PM)justoutsider Wrote: Hello Guys. So recently i have hit so many SE's here and there, and for every hit i'm using different VCC's (Revolut). As the account number stays the same, can bank raise suspicion and see that i have got soo soo many refunds? Doesn anyone got any experience in this? Thanks
PS since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpress as theyre so easy to hit, so also having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
lmao bro 60 rf?? What did you order ?if you don't mind telling us
Its span of like 6 months. Some pc parts, home stuff, watches, cpu...you name it.
Ok thanks for your answers. How ofter do you switch account for ae ? And when creating new account what precaution did you take ? Btw i have a good strong legit aliexpress account (many years and legit orders) what item would you recommend me for a big hit ?
Thanks!
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - KingDead - 03-05-2023
(03-02-2023, 03:17 AM)mothered Wrote:Quote: since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpressTake a break - It's an extreme amount of refunds In only 3 months. No one can possibly justify legit refunds (or otherwise) to that magnitude.
having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
I'm surprised your bank hasn't caught on to the Irregular pattern of behaviour. In a legitimate environment, I'd be lucky to refund 5 Items a year.
Is that a lot?
A year or 2 ago I was doing probably 60 refunds a month or more and 10 chargebacks a month.
My credit card statement every month would look like this:
New Charges: $3958
Refunds and credits: $3785
Total Due: $173
Maybe it's the total amount that matters more.
SE 2 items worth $5000 or 60 worth $5000 might be a lot different.
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - mothered - 03-05-2023
(03-04-2023, 09:42 PM)2ndround Wrote: A girl I know often makes 5+ legit returns each month.Under those circumstances, It's not deemed suspicious.
She orders several items at once, sometimes keeps one, sometimes all and sometimes none and returns everything.
Free returns and courier collections have increased try and buy shopping a lot in recent years, especially for women.
When you hit 60+ refunds In close timing without good reason, It certainly sets off alarm bells.
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - justoutsider - 03-05-2023
(03-04-2023, 11:56 PM)Bobbydrax Wrote:(03-04-2023, 11:29 PM)justoutsider Wrote:(03-04-2023, 09:45 PM)2ndround Wrote: Nice, do they have unlimited and disposable vccs?
Agreed that it is too much and could be seen as suscpicious.
Yeah they do, which is great.
(03-04-2023, 09:48 PM)aidandv Wrote: Are you using different address too?
On aliexpress no, i dont know how i got to 60 refunds without no triuble. On amazon and asos i do change address for every SE. Asos always comes in relay points so i just change them. On amazon i just put random address, and 30mins before arriving i just wait for my package at that random place
(03-04-2023, 10:35 PM)Bobbydrax Wrote: lmao bro 60 rf?? What did you order ?if you don't mind telling us
Its span of like 6 months. Some pc parts, home stuff, watches, cpu...you name it.
Ok thanks for your answers. How ofter do you switch account for ae ? And when creating new account what precaution did you take ? Btw i have a good strong legit aliexpress account (many years and legit orders) what item would you recommend me for a big hit ?
Thanks!
IMO i have never believed in''if you have legit orders' you'll have better success rate for SE.'' as i have bee succesfull with and without fresh accounts. For AE it doesnt really matter, dispute system always works. The item is up to you, but never do missing item or DNA for AE, as they can see the LITTLEST weight discrepency and reject your dispue. I bought fake airpods which were 50g in total, i said that an airpod was missing, and they rejected my dispute because there was 1 or 2g discrepency.
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - mothered - 03-05-2023
(03-05-2023, 12:14 AM)KingDead Wrote:Be careful.(03-02-2023, 03:17 AM)mothered Wrote:Quote: since november i also have like 60 refunds from AliExpressTake a break - It's an extreme amount of refunds In only 3 months. No one can possibly justify legit refunds (or otherwise) to that magnitude.
having 60 Refunds in bank accounts sounds sketchy.
I'm surprised your bank hasn't caught on to the Irregular pattern of behaviour. In a legitimate environment, I'd be lucky to refund 5 Items a year.
Is that a lot?
A year or 2 ago I was doing probably 60 refunds a month or more and 10 chargebacks a month.
My credit card statement every month would look like this:
New Charges: $3958
Refunds and credits: $3785
Total Due: $173
If you get audited, the bank and tax department will go through the Ins and outs of a cat's a**, hence you'd have a very arduous task trying to explain the transactions.
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - Bobbydrax - 03-05-2023
(03-05-2023, 09:16 AM)justoutsider Wrote:(03-04-2023, 11:56 PM)Bobbydrax Wrote:(03-04-2023, 11:29 PM)justoutsider Wrote: Yeah they do, which is great.
On aliexpress no, i dont know how i got to 60 refunds without no triuble. On amazon and asos i do change address for every SE. Asos always comes in relay points so i just change them. On amazon i just put random address, and 30mins before arriving i just wait for my package at that random place
Its span of like 6 months. Some pc parts, home stuff, watches, cpu...you name it.
Ok thanks for your answers. How ofter do you switch account for ae ? And when creating new account what precaution did you take ? Btw i have a good strong legit aliexpress account (many years and legit orders) what item would you recommend me for a big hit ?
Thanks!
IMO i have never believed in''if you have legit orders' you'll have better success rate for SE.'' as i have bee succesfull with and without fresh accounts. For AE it doesnt really matter, dispute system always works. The item is up to you, but never do missing item or DNA for AE, as they can see the LITTLEST weight discrepency and reject your dispue. I bought fake airpods which were 50g in total, i said that an airpod was missing, and they rejected my dispute because there was 1 or 2g discrepency.
Very instructive. Okay so, when you order the cpu or other PC parts. What story would you tell to the rep ? You just say its broken or something like that ?
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - justoutsider - 03-05-2023
(03-05-2023, 10:41 AM)Bobbydrax Wrote:(03-05-2023, 09:16 AM)justoutsider Wrote:(03-04-2023, 11:56 PM)Bobbydrax Wrote: Ok thanks for your answers. How ofter do you switch account for ae ? And when creating new account what precaution did you take ? Btw i have a good strong legit aliexpress account (many years and legit orders) what item would you recommend me for a big hit ?
Thanks!
IMO i have never believed in''if you have legit orders' you'll have better success rate for SE.'' as i have bee succesfull with and without fresh accounts. For AE it doesnt really matter, dispute system always works. The item is up to you, but never do missing item or DNA for AE, as they can see the LITTLEST weight discrepency and reject your dispue. I bought fake airpods which were 50g in total, i said that an airpod was missing, and they rejected my dispute because there was 1 or 2g discrepency.
Very instructive. Okay so, when you order the cpu or other PC parts. What story would you tell to the rep ? You just say its broken or something like that ?
Open a dispute, select dispute reason as item came already defective. Photoshop damage, and complain. Thats it. But keep in mind that you need to photoshop the damage in a way they dont need to have the item returned.
RE: Bank SE Suspicion - Allen Iverson - 03-05-2023
(03-05-2023, 11:02 AM)justoutsider Wrote:like what way? a cpu be cut in half?(03-05-2023, 10:41 AM)Bobbydrax Wrote:(03-05-2023, 09:16 AM)justoutsider Wrote: IMO i have never believed in''if you have legit orders' you'll have better success rate for SE.'' as i have bee succesfull with and without fresh accounts. For AE it doesnt really matter, dispute system always works. The item is up to you, but never do missing item or DNA for AE, as they can see the LITTLEST weight discrepency and reject your dispue. I bought fake airpods which were 50g in total, i said that an airpod was missing, and they rejected my dispute because there was 1 or 2g discrepency.
Very instructive. Okay so, when you order the cpu or other PC parts. What story would you tell to the rep ? You just say its broken or something like that ?
Open a dispute, select dispute reason as item came already defective. Photoshop damage, and complain. Thats it. But keep in mind that you need to photoshop the damage in a way they dont need to have the item returned.