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RE: the best methods used by refunders? - mothered - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 12:04 PM)Gianni01 Wrote: for the sealed method, you need to put a fake similar one with security seal like for example iPhone or macbook right ?A like-for-like product Is preferred, but It's not a necessity.
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - Geoff - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 01:30 PM)Tee Wrote:OK but how can they dna such high value items instantly?(01-22-2023, 11:47 AM)Gianni01 Wrote: Hello everyone, I see many groups on telegram to refund but as I want to do it by myself, do you know which method they use ? FTID or others ?
A ton of "refunders" are lying cucks in my experience. I spoke with one who was literally a kid. He sounded like his balls hadn't even dropped.
They will lie and say they have "insiders" and "private methods" in reality they charge 25% to DNA for you.
From what I have seen alot of what is done isn't special at all.
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - ruonis55 - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 03:06 PM)Geoff Wrote:They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.(01-22-2023, 01:30 PM)Tee Wrote:OK but how can they dna such high value items instantly?(01-22-2023, 11:47 AM)Gianni01 Wrote: Hello everyone, I see many groups on telegram to refund but as I want to do it by myself, do you know which method they use ? FTID or others ?
A ton of "refunders" are lying cucks in my experience. I spoke with one who was literally a kid. He sounded like his balls hadn't even dropped.
They will lie and say they have "insiders" and "private methods" in reality they charge 25% to DNA for you.
From what I have seen alot of what is done isn't special at all.
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - SilentSniper8122 - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 03:06 PM)Geoff Wrote:They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.(01-22-2023, 01:30 PM)Tee Wrote: A ton of "refunders" are lying cucks in my experience. I spoke with one who was literally a kid. He sounded like his balls hadn't even dropped.OK but how can they dna such high value items instantly?
They will lie and say they have "insiders" and "private methods" in reality they charge 25% to DNA for you.
From what I have seen alot of what is done isn't special at all.
Does anyone know if I can DNA Amazon on a brand new account for like say a £300 item?
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - ruonis55 - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 03:21 PM)SilentSniper8122 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 03:06 PM)Geoff Wrote: OK but how can they dna such high value items instantly?They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.
Does anyone know if I can DNA Amazon on a brand new account for like say a £300 item?
As you said it is in pounds, as far as I know , you will need One Time Password from Amazon UK for orders under 100 pounds. So that method will not pass.
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - SilentSniper8122 - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 03:27 PM)ruonis55 Wrote:Thank you 👍🏼(01-22-2023, 03:21 PM)SilentSniper8122 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote: They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.
Does anyone know if I can DNA Amazon on a brand new account for like say a £300 item?
As you said it is in pounds, as far as I know , you will need One Time Password from Amazon UK for orders under 100 pounds. So that method will not pass.
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - InternetRockStar - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 03:06 PM)Geoff Wrote:They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.(01-22-2023, 01:30 PM)Tee Wrote: A ton of "refunders" are lying cucks in my experience. I spoke with one who was literally a kid. He sounded like his balls hadn't even dropped.OK but how can they dna such high value items instantly?
They will lie and say they have "insiders" and "private methods" in reality they charge 25% to DNA for you.
From what I have seen alot of what is done isn't special at all.
Perfect answer
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - Geoff - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 04:36 PM)Tee Wrote:Yeah such a perfect answer that he just went around the whole question and just gave a vague answer.(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 03:06 PM)Geoff Wrote: OK but how can they dna such high value items instantly?They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.
Perfect answer
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - ruonis55 - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 05:34 PM)Geoff Wrote:(01-22-2023, 04:36 PM)Tee Wrote:Yeah such a perfect answer that he just went around the whole question and just gave a vague answer.(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote: They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.
Perfect answer
If you want to learn more, just go to www.socialengineers.net , it's @mothered blog in which you will find a lot of information about SE. I know that you want everything put on a plate, but you have to know that everyone started from zero and it was not easy. But you can create a topic about what you want to SE and you will get the help you need. Also, member named green314 sells all the information, methods about SE and what shops can be SE. (not advertising) But I have bought one ebook myself and I did find valuable information that is not public.
RE: the best methods used by refunders? - InternetRockStar - 01-22-2023
(01-22-2023, 05:34 PM)Geoff Wrote:(01-22-2023, 04:36 PM)Tee Wrote:Yeah such a perfect answer that he just went around the whole question and just gave a vague answer.(01-22-2023, 03:19 PM)ruonis55 Wrote: They have experiences and skills, they use something more than "my son's birthday is tomorrow and he didn't got a present", you have to be creative with SE. Like there are many methods and reasons to say to for example: Amazon rep. Also, it depends on your account status and how many years it has, orders and refunds/returns have been made on it. But you know how they say, a good magician never reveals his secrets.
Perfect answer
He answered well enough in my opinion