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RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - Clasolsson - 03-29-2021
Don’t they already know about it though? Maybe it will make em a little more pissed if thousands hit em up and they take a loss but it’s not like asking for refund for received goods is a secret thing only we know about lol....
RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - mothered - 03-29-2021
(03-29-2021, 05:52 AM)Clasolsson Wrote: Don’t they already know about it though?My thoughts exactly.
Companies on a large scale who deal with an Influx of claims, surely must have some knowledge of refund/replacement social engineering events.
RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - db8803 - 03-29-2021
Forums such as this one, are as much of help as they do damage. Because when you share your experience and you give people advices on how to perform different methods of SE. You also alert the companies of the loopholes they have and give them ideas how to fix that. So i guess it works both ways.
Recently i tried to do a DNA with Amz it was the perfect moment, because the package was handed over to a reception in different with different number. The guys who received the package signed for it with his name. And when i contacted them and told them they delivered it to a unknow to me person on a wrong address, they told me to go and find this guy and ask for my package. As far as they are concerned and according to the geo stamp and so on, it was delivered correctly and denied a refund or replacement. If i want to proceed i need a police report. So it gets harder and harder every time.
RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - SE.UK - 03-29-2021
yeah i've found amazon got a lot more difficult for DNA anyway. EB is pretty much dead, except for if you're SE'ing light stuff.
They've known about SEing for ages so wont comes as a shock to them.
RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - Coedkemper - 03-29-2021
I'd be surprised if people take notice and try. Amazon will probably just ask for police report and shut down the trend immediately.
The problem is items go missing, drivers steal them. They won't be able to tell the difference between genuine DNA and SE.
RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - db8803 - 03-29-2021
(03-29-2021, 05:29 PM)Coedkemper Wrote: I'd be surprised if people take notice and try. Amazon will probably just ask for police report and shut down the trend immediately.
The problem is items go missing, drivers steal them. They won't be able to tell the difference between genuine DNA and SE.
Your only option in case you really receive an empty box and they refuse a refund or replacement is to do a chargeback. But you could probably do it 1-2 times.
RE: Guessing DNA is gonna be a dead method soon for amazon? - qEpsilon - 03-29-2021
(03-29-2021, 05:52 AM)Clasolsson Wrote: Don’t they already know about it though? Maybe it will make em a little more pissed if thousands hit em up and they take a loss but it’s not like asking for refund for received goods is a secret thing only we know about lol....
yea, but i think the point is not that its a secret thing, its that the more people that do it the more it will piss them off so the harder it will be to do it. Next thing you know a picture showing the parcel and door number is mandatory.
(03-29-2021, 05:29 PM)Coedkemper Wrote: I'd be surprised if people take notice and try. Amazon will probably just ask for police report and shut down the trend immediately.
The problem is items go missing, drivers steal them. They won't be able to tell the difference between genuine DNA and SE.
is it possible if it goes really out of hand, they'll put cameras everywhere to monitor the parcel everywhere it goes? like cameras on the delivery drivers vehicle, inside and outside, in the warehouse, etc.