(07-28-2020, 07:54 AM)mothered Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 07:27 AM)durden666 Wrote: The only reason I'm still opting for SNAD over INR is that I suspect the merchant may request a police report or an affidavit with an item this expensive. Which I obviously would like to avoid.

I reckon the chances of them requesting such documents are significantly less with the SNAD method. Don't you think ?

I certainly agree.

The INR Is (obviously) purely not receiving the Item which Is classed as a loss, hence a police report/affidavit Is warranted under such circumstances. It's not to say that It "will" happen, but rather the possibility that It "may" happen.

(07-28-2020, 07:27 AM)durden666 Wrote: Also I would like to avoid having to do a CC chargeback at all costs. The highest CC limit I have is 6k. Therefore I would need to transfer the balance of 2/3 CC's to one account. And I don't imagine the process being that smooth if I have to chargeback two or even three CC's simultaneously.

Chargebacks can get rather messy and complicate matters at the best of times, so I understand your decision to avoid them. Moreover, you'd want to maintain a good relationship with your bank.

That said, If you haven't performed any or perhaps just the one, then It's something to consider.

(07-28-2020, 08:20 AM)durden666 Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 07:54 AM)mothered Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 07:27 AM)durden666 Wrote: The only reason I'm still opting for SNAD over INR is that I suspect the merchant may request a police report or an affidavit with an item this expensive. Which I obviously would like to avoid.

I reckon the chances of them requesting such documents are significantly less with the SNAD method. Don't you think ?

I certainly agree.

The INR Is (obviously) purely not receiving the Item which Is classed as a loss, hence a police report/affidavit Is warranted under such circumstances. It's not to say that It "will" happen, but rather the possibility that It "may" happen.

(07-28-2020, 07:27 AM)durden666 Wrote: Also I would like to avoid having to do a CC chargeback at all costs. The highest CC limit I have is 6k. Therefore I would need to transfer the balance of 2/3 CC's to one account. And I don't imagine the process being that smooth if I have to chargeback two or even three CC's simultaneously.

Chargebacks can get rather messy and complicate matters at the best of times, so I understand your decision to avoid them. Moreover, you'd want to maintain a good relationship with your bank.

That said, If you haven't performed any or perhaps just the one, then It's something to consider.

Precisely my train of thought. Besides I would rather have everything go through PayPal successfully, and keep chargebacks / section 75's for a last resort / plan B. Luckily I have never had to resort to this and would like to keep it that way. I like to try fly under the radar as much as possible. As it stands I don't even have any disputes with PayPal! Maximum one or two from years ago, and even at that it was just bad buyers on eBay for low value items.

I'm pretty adamant to attempt this. However I'm still formulating a perfect plan as I want to hit this as precisely as possible with contingencies in place. Also debating to wait untill the festive period ay Christmas...

(07-28-2020, 10:42 AM)mothered Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 08:20 AM)durden666 Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 07:54 AM)mothered Wrote: I certainly agree.

The INR Is (obviously) purely not receiving the Item which Is classed as a loss, hence a police report/affidavit Is warranted under such circumstances. It's not to say that It "will" happen, but rather the possibility that It "may" happen.

Chargebacks can get rather messy and complicate matters at the best of times, so I understand your decision to avoid them. Moreover, you'd want to maintain a good relationship with your bank.

That said, If you haven't performed any or perhaps just the one, then It's something to consider.

Precisely my train of thought. Besides I would rather have everything go through PayPal successfully, and keep chargebacks / section 75's for a last resort / plan B. Luckily I have never had to resort to this and would like to keep it that way. I like to try fly under the radar as much as possible. As it stands I don't even have any disputes with PayPal! Maximum one or two from years ago, and even at that it was just bad buyers on eBay for low value items.

I'm pretty adamant to attempt this. However I'm still formulating a perfect plan as I want to hit this as precisely as possible with contingencies in place. Also debating to wait untill the festive period ay Christmas...

I can see that you've planned your SE well thus far- covered every angle and possibilities.

In terms of a Section 75, they're legally obliged to take on your claim and not disregard It without good reason. If they decline It, you can take your Issue to the FOS (Financial Ombudsman Service), whereby they'll Investigate It In an Impartial and unbiased manner.

(07-28-2020, 11:13 AM)durden666 Wrote: In my opinion it would be better to shop at one of the other shops that's part of the one that people have been doing PayPal refunds from. As they most probably will not share databases/information about PayPal refunds to such an extent. Obviously it's speculation, and can't know for certain. But if, for example; shops A, B, C, D, E are all owned by shop A, and they are all virtually the same, just offer slightly different products, yet shop A has been hammered with PayPal refunds, surely it will be better to shop at any BUT shop A, for a higher chance of success.

(07-28-2020, 12:00 PM)mothered Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 11:13 AM)durden666 Wrote: In my opinion it would be better to shop at one of the other shops that's part of the one that people have been doing PayPal refunds from. As they most probably will not share databases/information about PayPal refunds to such an extent. Obviously it's speculation, and can't know for certain. But if, for example; shops A, B, C, D, E are all owned by shop A, and they are all virtually the same, just offer slightly different products, yet shop A has been hammered with PayPal refunds, surely it will be better to shop at any BUT shop A, for a higher chance of success.

How will you Identify the exact amount of PayPal refunds that have been Issued against a given store/shop?

(07-28-2020, 12:21 PM)thrw7878 Wrote: Sounds like a good plan though my advice would be to be extra cautious with Rolex in specific.

(07-28-2020, 12:29 PM)durden666 Wrote: I have yet to work through the above and come to a more accurate conclusion...

(07-28-2020, 12:29 PM)durden666 Wrote: For what reason, exactly?

Please elaborate

(07-28-2020, 02:36 PM)thrw7878 Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 12:29 PM)durden666 Wrote: For what reason, exactly?

Please elaborate

Rolex keep a detailed list of all their watches by the SN number. This list is available to all dealers and repair shops that sell and service Rolex watches. This means that if you want to sell it you have to find an individual who is not aware of this and is willing to buy it from you.
If you intend on keeping it you need to find a trusty repair shop who will be willing to work on it (it will very likely be reported as stolen from the place you purchase it and this will reflect upon crosschecking the database). In general if you are looking to buy one used you can request to check the SN hence why I said you need to be extra careful.

Here is a little bit of info but I am sure you can research more.

(07-28-2020, 04:52 PM)durden666 Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 02:36 PM)thrw7878 Wrote:

(07-28-2020, 12:29 PM)durden666 Wrote: For what reason, exactly?

Please elaborate

Rolex keep a detailed list of all their watches by the SN number. This list is available to all dealers and repair shops that sell and service Rolex watches. This means that if you want to sell it you have to find an individual who is not aware of this and is willing to buy it from you.
If you intend on keeping it you need to find a trusty repair shop who will be willing to work on it (it will very likely be reported as stolen from the place you purchase it and this will reflect upon crosschecking the database). In general if you are looking to buy one used you can request to check the SN hence why I said you need to be extra careful.

Here is a little bit of info but I am sure you can research more.

Yes Im aware of this. Its only obvious for such a high value item. Honestly I want one as its a great thing to have for a rainy day. Its not hard to find someone who will buy it for cheaper. I would never wear anything so expensive personally. Your message is exactly why id rather not DNA it also. I know the chances are slim but perhaps if i were to go via paypal SNAD then FTID them, there would be a slight chance that it somehow goes un noticed and not reported as missing as stolen. Probably naive, but a better chance than if it was DNAd IMO.

Also contemplated flying to the US and doing this over there, as it would make it a little less hot to own it here... potentially.