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RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - jdeemlg - 04-24-2020
(04-24-2020, 04:20 PM)mothered Wrote:(04-24-2020, 11:33 AM)jdeemlg Wrote: also starting my 3rd zalando one now, previous 2 were 1 year and 18 momths ago, changed address, number, card everything. Only thing the same is my name. Will keep posted
Taking all the above Into account and provided your method Is well-planned and executed effectively, I can't see any reason why your SE will fail.
Got 2 options planned, all depends on the delivery method used and how they deliver it. Will either be a DNA dependant on the proof, tracking and signature (had a few parcels where the delivery guy isnt even marking them as delivered) (all parcels dont need signature), or will be just refunding a light watch from the package and returning the rest.
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - Lassensedis - 04-24-2020
(04-24-2020, 05:01 PM)jdeemlg Wrote: Got 2 options planned, all depends on the delivery method used and how they deliver it. Will either be a DNA dependant on the proof, tracking and signature (had a few parcels where the delivery guy isnt even marking them as delivered) (all parcels dont need signature), or will be just refunding a light watch from the package and returning the rest.
How do I find out if the delivery guy doesnt mark them as delivered ?
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - mothered - 04-25-2020
(04-24-2020, 05:01 PM)jdeemlg Wrote: or will be just refunding a light watch from the package and returning the rest.
Obviously you're using the partial method. What's the exact weight of the watch?
That aside, rather than hijacking this thread, I kindly ask to eventually create one of your own.
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - Rednaxela1 - 04-26-2020
(04-24-2020, 11:33 AM)jdeemlg Wrote: also starting my 3rd zalando one now, previous 2 were 1 year and 18 momths ago, changed address, number, card everything. Only thing the same is my name. Will keep posted
Doesn't the different billing address flag up on their system?
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - mothered - 04-26-2020
(04-26-2020, 11:11 AM)Rednaxela1 Wrote:(04-24-2020, 11:33 AM)jdeemlg Wrote: also starting my 3rd zalando one now, previous 2 were 1 year and 18 momths ago, changed address, number, card everything. Only thing the same is my name. Will keep posted
Doesn't the different billing address flag up on their system?
It can, and most likely will, If they're referencing a prior order on their system.
When I process claims at work and enter the customer's first & last name, I'm given the option to either proceed, or cross-check other details to make sure they're correct.
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - Rednaxela1 - 04-26-2020
(04-26-2020, 12:30 PM)mothered Wrote:(04-26-2020, 11:11 AM)Rednaxela1 Wrote:(04-24-2020, 11:33 AM)jdeemlg Wrote: also starting my 3rd zalando one now, previous 2 were 1 year and 18 momths ago, changed address, number, card everything. Only thing the same is my name. Will keep posted
Doesn't the different billing address flag up on their system?
It can, and most likely will, If they're referencing a prior order on their system.
When I process claims at work and enter the customer's first & last name, I'm given the option to either proceed, or cross-check other details to make sure they're correct.
What about if you used your first and middle name with all other details different?
One thing i have never understood though, I have used a different delivery/billing address before, some websites don't question it, others do. Is there no way to know in advance if the order will get cancelled due to the billing address not being the one the card is registered to?
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - mothered - 04-26-2020
(04-26-2020, 12:56 PM)Rednaxela1 Wrote: What about if you used your first and middle name with all other details different?In this case, provided the family name/last name Is not used, then you'll be fine.
Without the last name, It's very difficult to conclusively Identify whether an account Is linked. That Is, family names are a lot more unique than first & middle names.
(04-26-2020, 12:56 PM)Rednaxela1 Wrote: One thing i have never understood though, I have used a different delivery/billing address before, some websites don't question it, others do.As per my example above, It depends how the company's claims department Is structured and whether the representative will take the extra step to cross-check the details at hand.
For Instance, If I have enough time at work, I will check the Information. If It's close to my lunch break, I don't bother and simply process the claim.
(04-26-2020, 12:56 PM)Rednaxela1 Wrote: Is there no way to know in advance if the order will get cancelled due to the billing address not being the one the card is registered to?Orders are processed by companies Internally, so from a consumer's standpoint, It's not possible to know what happens prior to when the order Is punched Into their systems.
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - _mayur19 - 06-19-2020
(04-23-2020, 04:25 PM)Lassensedis Wrote: So recently I started getting into refunding (maybe a bit late but idc) and did my first partial refund on zalando. Though there were a few problems with me receiving my money the refund itself was pretty easy.
Now for my second refund I wondered how I would go about it. I'll create a new paypal account but I'm not sure about the Rest like:
Is it fine if I just use the name of my father or my second name or something like that ?
Can I still use my adress ?
I'd really appreciate any help I can get for this and maybe it'll help out other people who are new to Social Engineering/ Refunding as well
(04-23-2020, 04:25 PM)Lassensedis Wrote: So recently I started getting into refunding (maybe a bit late but idc) and did my first partial refund on zalando. Though there were a few problems with me receiving my money the refund itself was pretty easy.
Now for my second refund I wondered how I would go about it. I'll create a new paypal account but I'm not sure about the Rest like:
Is it fine if I just use the name of my father or my second name or something like that ?
Can I still use my adress ?
I'd really appreciate any help I can get for this and maybe it'll help out other people who are new to Social Engineering/ Refunding as well
What’s the best method for Zalando ? DNA or PEB?
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - Filament - 06-19-2020
(04-26-2020, 04:32 PM)mothered Wrote:Goes to show timing of the SE is so important. I always try to call right before day-end (preferably on a Friday/Saturday) when I feel like I'm at the last step.(04-26-2020, 12:56 PM)Rednaxela1 Wrote: One thing i have never understood though, I have used a different delivery/billing address before, some websites don't question it, others do.As per my example above, It depends how the company's claims department Is structured and whether the representative will take the extra step to cross-check the details at hand.
For Instance, If I have enough time at work, I will check the Information. If It's close to my lunch break, I don't bother and simply process the claim.
RE: Help with 2nd Zalando refund - mothered - 06-20-2020
(06-19-2020, 06:14 PM)Filament Wrote: Goes to show timing of the SE is so important.Absolutely.
The timing (where applicable), Is an Integral part of the SEing method.