(06-30-2016, 10:39 AM)Aiko Wrote: It's not the victims fault they got raped by the way they dressed, presented themselves or anything. Men will rape a woman no matter the color, clothes etc...

Woman will rape a man at gun point cause they are not (Strong to take them head on) and sad part is other Men laugh at him for getting raped by a woman and that is just wrong in so many ways as well.

Most rapists don't have an agenda on which person he wants to rape.

(06-30-2016, 10:40 AM)Jebusfathead Wrote: It's the rapist's fault, to say it's the victim's fault is a bit stupid imo

(06-30-2016, 10:56 AM)Crow Wrote: This entire ideology derived from the common problem that a lot of the times a woman isn't raped, but says so out of any reason they deem fit. They might have taken a sudden dislike to their partner, they might have done it for money or any other reason that suits them. In a scenario like this "rape" is their issue, and their fault as they make up a lie. Because of scenarios like this, people started to place blame on everything else they could. Along with this, victims of rape often comment that people started to view them differently and treat them differently, which leaves them with a feeling that "they did something wrong" when in reality they didn't.

In a actual scenario where rape too place, a lot of things can change and alter the outcome. If someone tackles another person in the street and proceed to have sexual intercourse without their consent then that is rape. If two people start to have sex and one person suddenly changes opinion half way through and say they want, and the other part stops right away, then that isn't rape. Even though there have been a lot of cases where the person who still wanted and stopped was arrested for rape because the person who had second thoughts yelled rape afterwards. In this scenario the fault (objectively) lies with the person who got second doubts and not the person who did the right thing. 

Scenarios like this has made it hard to decide that whenever someone have been raped or not. So called evidence of a rape can fairly easily be faked if someone please, or have been brought on my consensual sex. (The more hardcore variant mind you.) This lead people to try and place blame on someone, and thus some decided that the blame is of those that got raped because of any number of reasons. Maybe they didn't protect themselves good enough? Maybe they are lying? Maybe they got a twisted idea of it because they suddenly had second thoughts even if their partner stopped when they asked? Point being, saying that its always the fault of the person who 'rapes' is wrong, and saying the same about the person who gets raped is also wrong.

Each case is a individual one, and should be treated as such. (Though as I said earlier, about tackling and what not above. That remains actual rape.)

(07-01-2016, 10:54 PM)Bubble Wrote: Probably because it was "so long".

(07-01-2016, 10:54 PM)Bubble Wrote:

(06-30-2016, 10:56 AM)Crow Wrote: This entire ideology derived from the common problem that a lot of the times a woman isn't raped, but says so out of any reason they deem fit. They might have taken a sudden dislike to their partner, they might have done it for money or any other reason that suits them. In a scenario like this "rape" is their issue, and their fault as they make up a lie. Because of scenarios like this, people started to place blame on everything else they could. Along with this, victims of rape often comment that people started to view them differently and treat them differently, which leaves them with a feeling that "they did something wrong" when in reality they didn't.

In a actual scenario where rape too place, a lot of things can change and alter the outcome. If someone tackles another person in the street and proceed to have sexual intercourse without their consent then that is rape. If two people start to have sex and one person suddenly changes opinion half way through and say they want, and the other part stops right away, then that isn't rape. Even though there have been a lot of cases where the person who still wanted and stopped was arrested for rape because the person who had second thoughts yelled rape afterwards. In this scenario the fault (objectively) lies with the person who got second doubts and not the person who did the right thing. 

Scenarios like this has made it hard to decide that whenever someone have been raped or not. So called evidence of a rape can fairly easily be faked if someone please, or have been brought on my consensual sex. (The more hardcore variant mind you.) This lead people to try and place blame on someone, and thus some decided that the blame is of those that got raped because of any number of reasons. Maybe they didn't protect themselves good enough? Maybe they are lying? Maybe they got a twisted idea of it because they suddenly had second thoughts even if their partner stopped when they asked? Point being, saying that its always the fault of the person who 'rapes' is wrong, and saying the same about the person who gets raped is also wrong.

Each case is a individual one, and should be treated as such. (Though as I said earlier, about tackling and what not above. That remains actual rape.)

I actually read all of this and it makes total sense. Idk no one replied to your post, with at least some gratitude. You nailed it. Probably because it was "so long".