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CPU + GPU methods - Injera - 11-05-2022
Hypothetically to SE a CPU and GPU
I was planning on using Amazon/Walmart/Microcenter
CPU: 13th gen intel (13600K, 13700K, 13900K)
Would empty box work? I can't find the weight of the CPUs anywhere but I've read that they are between 40-80 grams. The 9th gen 9900K cpu from intel apparently weighs 26 grams
GPU: DNA wouldn't really work, I do have a 6700 XT graphics card which I could theoretically use the wrong item method. However I've had it for a while now and didn't purchase it with the same account. Is there another method suited for this kind of swapping?
RE: CPU + GPU methods - mothered - 11-05-2022
Quote:Would empty box work? I can't find the weight of the CPUs anywhere but I've read that they are between 40-80 grams. The 9th gen 9900K cpu from intel apparently weighs 26 gramsOn the grounds It's not visible externally, It's perfect to EB It.
Quote:GPU: DNA wouldn't really workIs It due to where you reside and how the package Is accepted?
Quote: I do have a 6700 XT graphics card which I could theoretically use the wrong item method. However I've had it for a while now and didn't purchase it with the same account.Disregard the wrong Item received.
Quote: Is there another method suited for this kind of swapping?Swapping aside, Is It packaged with a factory seal?
RE: CPU + GPU methods - Injera - 11-05-2022
@mothered
I had just heard that Amazon fights tooth and nail with CPUs specifically with the EB method. While I don't mind filing a police report (although it makes no sense to do so) I've heard that often it would need to be disputed by my credit card company/bank and that seems like a hassle/would take quite a while.
And yes, I don't think DNA would work as my apartment has a package locker that is always recording and requires photo + signature to open the locker and retrieve the package
"Swapping aside, Is It packaged with a factory seal?"
Do you mean the GPU I intend to SE? Or the one I currently have. Both are packaged the same I suppose, let's say I wanted to SE a 3070 ti from ROG. From what I can see on YouTube the box is taped shut but not fully sealed, the gpu comes in an anti-static bag that is also taped shut but no other seals that I can see.
RE: CPU + GPU methods - mothered - 11-05-2022
(11-05-2022, 12:28 PM)Injera Wrote: I had just heard that Amazon fights tooth and nail with CPUs specifically with the EB method. While I don't mind filing a police report (although it makes no sense to do so) I've heard that often it would need to be disputed by my credit card company/bank and that seems like a hassle/would take quite a while.The Issues when EB'ing Amazon, Is the ridiculous request for a PR and (at times) the need to return the empty box.
It's pretty straightforward, which Is why It has a high success rate particularly with AirPods and Apple Watches.
(11-05-2022, 12:28 PM)Injera Wrote: And yes, I don't think DNA would work as my apartment has a package locker that is always recording and requires photo + signature to open the locker and retrieve the packageThen the DNA Is out of the question.
(11-05-2022, 12:28 PM)Injera Wrote: "Swapping aside, Is It packaged with a factory seal?"Correct.
Do you mean the GPU I intend to SE?
RE: CPU + GPU methods - Injera - 11-06-2022
PR obviously doesn't make sense. But what's the harm in returning the empty box? Just the lower resell value?
I'd found that as well, why do airpods/apple watches have a higher success rate than CPUs/other EB items? Is it just the lower weight?
The GPU is not shrink-wrapped in plastic if that's what you mean. The only type of seals I can see are on the outer box and the adhesive on the anti-static bag within the box which holds the GPU.
RE: CPU + GPU methods - mothered - 11-06-2022
(11-06-2022, 02:45 AM)Injera Wrote: But what's the harm in returning the empty box? Just the lower resell value?They probably need It to bring It to the attention of the manufacturer.
(11-06-2022, 02:45 AM)Injera Wrote: I'd found that as well, why do airpods/apple watches have a higher success rate than CPUs/other EB items? Is it just the lower weight?Predominantly due to the lower weight.
Even 15-20 grams less can make a difference In a successful outcome.
(11-06-2022, 02:45 AM)Injera Wrote: The GPU is not shrink-wrapped in plastic if that's what you mean. The only type of seals I can see are on the outer box and the adhesive on the anti-static bag within the box which holds the GPU.If It contains factory seals that requires to take them apart to open the box, then the sealed box method can be used.
Of course, the box must be fully covered In cardboard.
RE: CPU + GPU methods - Injera - 11-07-2022
(11-06-2022, 03:04 AM)mothered Wrote:(11-06-2022, 02:45 AM)Injera Wrote: But what's the harm in returning the empty box? Just the lower resell value?They probably need It to bring It to the attention of the manufacturer.
(11-06-2022, 02:45 AM)Injera Wrote: I'd found that as well, why do airpods/apple watches have a higher success rate than CPUs/other EB items? Is it just the lower weight?Predominantly due to the lower weight.
Even 15-20 grams less can make a difference In a successful outcome.
(11-06-2022, 02:45 AM)Injera Wrote: The GPU is not shrink-wrapped in plastic if that's what you mean. The only type of seals I can see are on the outer box and the adhesive on the anti-static bag within the box which holds the GPU.If It contains factory seals that requires to take them apart to open the box, then the sealed box method can be used.
Of course, the box must be fully covered In cardboard.
I just returned the box on a EB attempt (bestbuy, logitech mouse). The refund is in progress, do you think this will hurt my chances?
In general should I avoid sending the box back if they ask for it?
I see. So when EBing Apple watches it's better to go for the lighter ones. Some of them can weigh more than CPUs
Are there any other light, high value items suited to EBing other than airpods/applewatches/CPUs/SSDs?
RE: CPU + GPU methods - mothered - 11-07-2022
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: I just returned the box on a EB attempt (bestbuy, logitech mouse). The refund is in progress, do you think this will hurt my chances?The timing Is too close to hit two SEs.
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: In general should I avoid sending the box back if they ask for it?There's no harm In returning the empty box, unless of course you need It to sell the Item.
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: So when EBing Apple watches it's better to go for the lighter ones. Some of them can weigh more than CPUsSolely EBing the watch case has a very high success rate.
The Series 7 Is only 32 grams.
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: Are there any other light, high value items suited to EBing other than airpods/applewatches/CPUs/SSDs?Too many to mention.
RE: CPU + GPU methods - Injera - 11-07-2022
(11-07-2022, 02:53 AM)mothered Wrote:Definitely too soon for the same company. I was planning to SE for a different company, unless best buy/walmart/amazon/microcenter have some sort of central database?(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: I just returned the box on a EB attempt (bestbuy, logitech mouse). The refund is in progress, do you think this will hurt my chances?The timing Is too close to hit two SEs.
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: In general should I avoid sending the box back if they ask for it?There's no harm In returning the empty box, unless of course you need It to sell the Item.
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: So when EBing Apple watches it's better to go for the lighter ones. Some of them can weigh more than CPUsSolely EBing the watch case has a very high success rate.
The Series 7 Is only 32 grams.
(11-07-2022, 02:26 AM)Injera Wrote: Are there any other light, high value items suited to EBing other than airpods/applewatches/CPUs/SSDs?Too many to mention.
I've been racking my head thinking and can only think of a few other than the four I listed. IEMs, lighter gopro models, watches, sunglasses, and jewelry all work? And do you have any other favorite items to EB?
RE: CPU + GPU methods - mothered - 11-07-2022
(11-07-2022, 06:42 AM)Injera Wrote: unless best buy/walmart/amazon/microcenter have some sort of central database?Collectively, they don't.
(11-07-2022, 06:42 AM)Injera Wrote: I've been racking my head thinking and can only think of a few other than the four I listed. IEMs, lighter gopro models, watches, sunglasses, and jewelry all work?Can't generalize, It depends on the Item weight.
For Instance, define "lighter GoPro models". The term "lighter" could be anything.
(11-07-2022, 06:42 AM)Injera Wrote: And do you have any other favorite items to EB?There are many tech-based Items and apparel that capture my Interest, but the first port of call when EBing, Is to Identify the precise weight.