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Need help on sneakers refund - dihydrotestosterone - 05-06-2022

Yo everyone I'm calling on you because I would like to make a refund of a pairs of sneakers very soon.
The problem is that I do not want to hit refund on Nike or Zalando but on a site like stockx goat etc.. at least a site that offer sneakers that can be reselled.
I found 2/3 french sites (I live in France) that I think are good looking to try a rf on.
The problem is that theses shops are often runned by small teams and therefore a
  • - FTID (because they will check that it arrives to their warehouse)
  • - an EB / PEB (too few orders are made and therefore impossible to forget to fill a package)
  • - a BOXING (impossible to send a fake pair instead, they would legit check it)
  • - and a DNA (I would have it delivered in a Pick-up station) seem impossible.
This leaves me with very few possible outcomes other than LIT.
My question is, do you have any idea which method would be the best to apply, if not, could I try a LIT with the temporary ink method? The LIT method seems to me like the best way to get my rf through.
Btw If you have ever successfully rf'd any "rare sneaker" shop please feel free to testify.

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - mothered - 05-06-2022

Quote:The problem is that theses shops are often runned by small teams
Will the seller be affected on a personal level?

Quote:FTID (because they will check that it arrives to their warehouse)
Disregard It altogether.

Quote:an EB / PEB (too few orders are made and therefore impossible to forget to fill a package)
The sneakers are too heavy for the said methods.

Quote: a BOXING (impossible to send a fake pair instead, they would legit check it)
The boxing method does not Involve sending the goods back.

Quote:and a DNA (I would have it delivered in a Pick-up station) seem impossible.
Is ID requested on pickup?

If so, Is a copy taken or purely visually checked?

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - dihydrotestosterone - 05-06-2022

Quote:Will the seller be affected on a personal level?
More or less, I'm not going after individuals either but a "small enterprise". This shouldn't impact them too much since they already make huge margins by reselling the sneakers

Quote:Disregard It altogether.
After reading on your forum, I got a bit "disgusted" with FTID, so I'd rather avoid it.

Quote:The sneakers are too heavy for the said methods.
Yes, the EB was not a option anyway.

Quote:The boxing method does not Involve sending the goods back.
I thought you had to send an article in the boxing, I must have mistaken it.

Quote:Is ID requested on pickup?

If so, Is a copy taken or purely visually checked?
Yes an ID is required 90% of the time and often in physical format, although a little bit of SE could be done.

Which method would you advise me to use under the circumstances?
Would a LIT be possible and interesting?

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - mothered - 05-06-2022

(05-06-2022, 03:29 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: More or less, I'm not going after individuals either but a "small enterprise". This shouldn't impact them too much since they already make huge margins by reselling the sneakers
As long as It doesn't personally Impact on the seller, then It's fine. 

(05-06-2022, 03:29 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: I thought you had to send an article in the boxing,
I believe you may have mistaken It for the wrong Item received method.

(05-06-2022, 03:29 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: Yes an ID is required 90% of the time and often in physical format, although a little bit of SE could be done.
Do they take a copy, or verify It visually?

(05-06-2022, 03:29 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: Which method would you advise me to use under the circumstances?
The wrong Item received method Is well-suited.

Depending on your answer pertaining to the ID, the DNA Is obviously available.

(05-06-2022, 03:29 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: Would a LIT be possible and interesting?
You'd need to accurately calculate the time taken for the Ink to disappear on the shipping label.

If It prematurely fades, the label will most likely be reprinted.

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - Amado - 05-06-2022

its very hard to hit sites that act as a middle man for sellers , id try looking up a site that sells their own stock of high end shoes so your hitting the company not a 3rd party

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - dihydrotestosterone - 05-06-2022

(05-06-2022, 08:00 AM)Amado Wrote: its very hard to hit sites that act as a middle man for sellers , id try looking up a site that sells their own stock of high end shoes so your hitting the company not a 3rd party
For sure that's why I'd like to avoid stockx etc.. and go for a site that resells pairs but has its own stock of sneakers.
Quote:Do they take a copy, or verify It visually?
Yes they very very often ask for a physical ID and don't always accept scans, now I could possibly handle with a lost ID attestation. But I have the feeling (I may be wrong) that the DNA method works much better with home deliveries rather than at pickup stations.

Quote:The wrong Item received method Is well-suited.
I don't know, I think that for a small boutique to accuse them of being the source of the problem seems weird in the sense that they'll make sure to process each order very correctly since they don't work with large quantities of orders.
But why not, I'll check on your blog.

Quote:You'd need to accurately calculate the time taken for the Ink to disappear on the shipping label.
My idea would be to drop it off at a parcel shop that doesn't do too many checks, and isn't too strict with the packages.
The strategy would be to drop it off the last hour before closing time on Sunday afternoon/evening.
They would then place the package with the others to be able to give it to the driver on Monday morning.
The ink would have completely disappeared by then the order would be LIT and the carrier would have to refund me.

Quote:If It prematurely fades, the label will most likely be reprinted.
I'm not really afraid of reprinting in the sense that I'm purposely putting it in a parcel that wouldn't really know what to do in that scenario.

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - mothered - 05-06-2022

(05-06-2022, 10:46 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: Yes they very very often ask for a physical ID and don't always accept scans
Yes but as asked a number of times, "do they take a copy of the ID", or simply verify It just by looking at the details?

(05-06-2022, 10:46 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: I think that for a small boutique to accuse them of being the source of the problem seems weird in the sense that they'll make sure to process each order very correctly
Picking & packing errors Is Inevitable In every warehouse environment, Irrespective of size/number of employees.

Over a 35 year period In warehousing & logistics, I've worked In many companies with only a handful of storeman, who picked Incorrect (and sometimes missed) Items quite regularly.

(05-06-2022, 10:46 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: My idea would be to drop it off at a parcel shop that doesn't do too many checks, and isn't too strict with the packages.
How will you Identify that from an external standpoint?

(05-06-2022, 10:46 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: The strategy would be to drop it off the last hour before closing time on Sunday afternoon/evening.
They would then place the package with the others to be able to give it to the driver on Monday morning.
Checking In goods, sorting out their destination and recording the details on the manifest In readiness for dispatch the following day, all takes time.

What happens If the Ink begins to fade during that period?

(05-06-2022, 10:46 AM)dihydrotestosterone Wrote: I'm not really afraid of reprinting in the sense that I'm purposely putting it in a parcel that wouldn't really know what to do in that scenario.
Wouldn't they open the parcel to Identify the consignment?

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - dihydrotestosterone - 05-06-2022

Quote:Yes but as asked a number of times, "do they take a copy of the ID", or simply verify It just by looking at the details?
No they dont take a copy they only look at details see if it matches the name and shit like that.

Quote:Picking & packing errors Is Inevitable In every warehouse environment, Irrespective of size/number of employees.

Over a 35 year period In warehousing & logistics, I've worked In many companies with only a handful of storeman, who picked Incorrect (and sometimes missed) Items quite regularly.
Okok, cool to know that! I can't say anything against 35 years of experience. (by the way, thanks to you for helping this forum so much, seriously).

So the wrong item received is still an option, that's very good to know.

Quote:How will you Identify that from an external standpoint?
By choosing a small store which is also proposing a parcelshop service (but which is not their main activity) held by old people or young idiots. I know a fair amount of relay points that correspond to these conditions.

Quote:What happens If the Ink begins to fade during that period?
No idea unfortunately it would be a bit like playing roulette, all scenarios are possible.
But logically, a relay point without camera and held by idiots should not know what to do in this situation, the package would be LIT at scan.
By taking an insurance theft and loss (in transit) with my package it should be refunded by the carrier

Quote:Wouldn't they open the parcel to Identify the consignment?
Honestly I don't think so, I'm (almost) sure it's forbidden and not really in the procedure of the French delivery systems (to my knowledge).

Otherwise, many of my legit packages that really got lost in transit could have been found...

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - Amado - 05-07-2022

can i ask where your from an i can point you in a direction to some stores i may know ?

RE: Need help on sneakers refund - dihydrotestosterone - 05-07-2022

(05-07-2022, 10:16 AM)Amado Wrote: can i ask where your from an i can point you in a direction to some stores i may know ?

Yeah np, im from france but i can order on an international website if needed
Thanks u very much for helping me bro