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Where to study SE and become truly prepared - dariush98 - 02-09-2022
Hi guys, premise I want to thank all those users who contribute to this forum and exchange their knowledge with us.
I am a front end developer and recently I approached the world of SE and refunding.
I can only thank mothered for his site "socialengineers" where i learned a loot of things.
The problem is that I don't know where to study and get informations. In forums I only find Refunders and Boxers who sell their service but there are no groups, tutorials or ebooks where you can study these topics. I would like to know someone with whom I can delve into this world.
IIf anyone wants to share a channel, a website or anything where we can study these things I would appreciate it a lot.
Ciao!
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - Jideau - 02-09-2022
The best experience is practice.
Wishing you success in your journey.
Best of luck to you.
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - dariush98 - 02-09-2022
(02-09-2022, 04:56 PM)Jideau Wrote: The best experience is practice.Thanks mate. Of course I need some pratice but I feel like I can't find the right infos. I only can find many refunders/boxers on forums but only a few (good) tutorials.
Wishing you success in your journey.
Best of luck to you.
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - DrangBrang - 02-09-2022
I’m learning too! You have to just practice practice and practice!!!
Also, ask questions here. mother is ready to help and assist you.
I think with some real hardcore research you’ll find some more places to learn.
My take on SE is to learn how others operate, and manipulate it. I guess at this point social engineers could be called a phycologist; Observe the human, test something out, and record the results(Keep in mind im still new to SE’ing, so don’t bash my point of view).
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - mothered - 02-10-2022
There's no shortage of guides and assistance, so you need to make a start with social engineering.
Every SE Is performed on a case-by-case basis, so with experience, you will find It will eventually become second nature.
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - dariush98 - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 01:46 AM)mothered Wrote: There's no shortage of guides and assistance, so you need to make a start with social engineering.
Every SE Is performed on a case-by-case basis, so with experience, you will find It will eventually become second nature.
Thanks for ur reply
Problem is that if you don't know methods you have to reach out to others who do all the work for you.
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - thebuffer - 02-10-2022
The more people that find out about refunding, the lower the chance of success so that's why people that learn how to do it often like to do it for other people and charge them like 20-30% of the rrp of a product. I got my hands on a pdf where it has all methods. I obvs payed for it so if you want it, ill pass it on for half price lol. It includes the methods you can refund for all the websites. Anyway, after i bought it and read it (keep in mind its 60 pages long) i was like half the sht on here is common sense but yeah it worked for little stuff like reffing a monitor and low end shit 200-400$, now im going for apple products.. You can do it without any instructions, "play stupid and natural" all i gotta say and you'll easily get some refunds. If you want that pdf hit me up on discrd crissmihail#5269 .
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - mothered - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 01:11 PM)dariush98 Wrote: Problem is that if you don't know methods you have to reach out to others who do all the work for you.I understand your position.
I was also a beginner 35 years ago, but through dedication, countless hours of researching and trial & error and experimenting with every entity I could get my hands on, social engineering has become an Instinctive commodity. In terms of being well acquainted with methods, I've written articles on my blog for every traditional method. Use the search function or the site map to find what you're after.
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - dariush98 - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:32 PM)mothered Wrote:(02-10-2022, 01:11 PM)dariush98 Wrote: Problem is that if you don't know methods you have to reach out to others who do all the work for you.I understand your position.
I was also a beginner 35 years ago, but through dedication, countless hours of researching and trial & error and experimenting with every entity I could get my hands on, social engineering has become an Instinctive commodity. In terms of being well acquainted with methods, I've written articles on my blog for every traditional method. Use the search function or the site map to find what you're after.
Thank you mate, I am reading all your articles and can't thx enough.
The only thing I struggle to understand is:
What is the real difference between boxers and refunders? Why do boxers have very low commissions compared to refunders?
I mean, i don't wanna believe that the only difference is that refunders take responsibility for the refund. Because if that were the case, it wouldn't make sense to pay such high percentages to refunders.
So, are they using different ftid/lit/other methods?
RE: Where to study SE and become truly prepared - mothered - 02-11-2022
(02-10-2022, 06:43 PM)dariush98 Wrote: Thank you mate, I am reading all your articles and can't thx enough.You're most welcome.
I'm glad you're finding my articles of benefit.
(02-10-2022, 06:43 PM)dariush98 Wrote: The only thing I struggle to understand is:It's Impossible to generalize and speak for every service and the methods used.
What is the real difference between boxers and refunders? Why do boxers have very low commissions compared to refunders?
I mean, i don't wanna believe that the only difference is that refunders take responsibility for the refund. Because if that were the case, it wouldn't make sense to pay such high percentages to refunders.
So, are they using different ftid/lit/other methods?
Without naming specifics and for anonymity purposes, the refunders & boxers whom I deal with are mostly on par with their rates.