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FTID3 test run - K03NT3S31N - 08-26-2021

Hello,

I wanted to try the FTID3 method. I am still undecided, because many say it's bad, but many say it's good too, so I wanted to try it myself. With the right preparation, I (theoretically) don't think the method is bad at all. I would not send the envelope (possibly even directly a package) empty but fill it with garbage, that if an investigation is pending, at least the weight (and the dimensions) is right. In addition, possibly write on the package (e.g. with a bright easy-to-read color) that the package should be delivered to the address on the package (and not the one stored in the barcode). Maybe even on each side of the box?

Does anyone have ideas, suggestions, counter-arguments or ideas where I can try this method as a test? Should only be a test run, so no expensive orders.

RE: FTID3 test run - Roadman - 08-26-2021

FTID is best paired with the wrong item received method.

If the ftid gets sent to a different location its a win-win and you get your refund.

If the ftid gets sent to the amazon warehouse you can say you received a different item beforehand, which weighs the same as the original item. Make sure you write this reason and the description of the wrong item when creating your returns label otherwise the warehouse will think you've returned an incorrect item.

RE: FTID3 test run - K03NT3S31N - 08-26-2021

So if paired with wrong item received, FTID seems like a 100% success method. Because:

Roadman Wrote:If the ftid gets sent to a different location its a win-win and you get your refund.
This is a win. And this...

Roadman Wrote:If the ftid gets sent to the amazon warehouse you can say you received a different item beforehand, which weighs the same as the original item. Make sure you write this reason and the description of the wrong item when creating your returns label otherwise the warehouse will think you've returned an incorrect item.
...is also a win. You just claim that an other customer SE'ed this item before, and that he put the "junk item that weights the same" in there. My only concern is that the reps might ask why the shipping label looks "edited". I think then you just have to be creative.

RE: FTID3 test run - Roadman - 08-26-2021

They should not mention the label being edited at all. If they do I would just say thats how the computer shop printed the label.

As for the previous SE'er putting random junk, thats a perfect excuse. Just make sure you write that when creating your returns label. When your parcel arrives back at the warehouse (technically the parcel shouldn't arrive there anyway due to ftid supposing to send the parcel elsewhere), the worker can see what notes you wrote. So just make sure you write there was random junk inside when creating your returns label.

I would still recommend buying an actual item sold by Amazon with the same weight, as opposed to the random junk left behind by previous SE'er. But ultimately its up to you to decide.

Good luck man!

RE: FTID3 test run - K03NT3S31N - 08-26-2021

Roadman Wrote:I would still recommend buying an actual item sold by Amazon with the same weight

Good point! Since my last SE on Amazon was just a few days ago, I'll try to FTID an other company. I will make sure that this company also has the random junk in their inventory.
@mothered In relation to the above explanation, what is your view on it? Since your an SE'er who doesn't like this method.

RE: FTID3 test run - Roadman - 08-26-2021

Sounds good to wait as this could get your account banned if you do another SE too soon. I hope it works for you.

As for FTID then yes its a 50-50 chance of working. This is why I always tell people its best to pair it up with Wrong Item Received/Junk received due to a previous SE'er.

RE: FTID3 test run - K03NT3S31N - 08-26-2021

(08-26-2021, 06:18 PM)Roadman Wrote: As for FTID then yes its a 50-50 chance of working. This is why I always tell people its best to pair it up with Wrong Item Received/Junk received due to a previous SE'er.
I've read that too. From my point of view, there is currently no way that things can go wrong (when FTID + wrong item received), as stated above.
Am I missing something here? Sounds too easy at the moment.

RE: FTID3 test run - Roadman - 08-26-2021

(08-26-2021, 06:23 PM)K03NT3S31N Wrote:
(08-26-2021, 06:18 PM)Roadman Wrote: As for FTID then yes its a 50-50 chance of working. This is why I always tell people its best to pair it up with Wrong Item Received/Junk received due to a previous SE'er.
I've read that too. From my point of view, there is currently no way that things can go wrong (when FTID + wrong item received), as stated above.
Am I missing something here? Sounds too easy at the moment.

Amazon deny ftid claims at random, they can ban your account if they don't believe you/too many SE's, etc. That's why I say its still 50-50% chance of working.

If anything goes wrong you can return the item legitimately. Always remember to keep a spare copy of the returns label in case you need to send the item back. This is why you should never use the item until you receive the refund in your bank!

RE: FTID3 test run - K03NT3S31N - 08-26-2021

"Roadman Wrote:Amazon deny ftid claims at random, they can ban your account if they don't believe you/too many SE's, etc. That's why I say its still 50-50% chance of working.
That's right, but if you do it correctly, I don't get why Amazon / any other company should decline the FTID. In the best case, they don't even know what's happening to them.

RE: FTID3 test run - mothered - 08-27-2021

(08-26-2021, 06:16 PM)K03NT3S31N Wrote: @mothered In relation to the above explanation, what is your view on it? Since your an SE'er who doesn't like this method.
(08-26-2021, 07:25 PM)K03NT3S31N Wrote: but if you do it correctly, I don't get why Amazon / any other company should decline the FTID.
Read my latest article published yesterday, with particular attention to how warehousing, logistics and freight distribution operate.

If the so-called FTID was used against the company I work for, without a shadow of a doubt, It will fail each and every time. There are no Ifs, ands, or buts about It. The same applies to other companies/carriers/services who process shipments by consignment, tracking verification and physical return of goods Into their receiving area, Inclusive of digital records In their administration/Invoicing department(s).

And believe me, there are countless entities who operate In the above fashion.