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First SE (UK) - tamajiv176 - 08-05-2020

Attempting my first "proper" SE. Done a few before but this is the highest value item (iPhone 11 Pro). Store is John Lewis and I paid via PayPal intending to do FTID. Having read some of the threads here, I am now in doubt wether to even attempt this. What is the best method I should be using here? As I mentioned, first time doing this so am naturally apprehensive.


RE: First SE (UK) - Green314 - 08-05-2020

You started like a bomb.
You ought to start doing simple SEs, such as food.

This is my humble opinion.


RE: First SE (UK) - Akloose - 08-05-2020

Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now


RE: First SE (UK) - tamajiv176 - 08-05-2020

(08-05-2020, 05:19 PM)green314 Wrote: You started like a bomb.
You ought to start doing simple SEs, such as food.

This is my humble opinion.

Done food, Amazon and one other store already. So thought I’d move up a notch lol.

(08-05-2020, 05:27 PM)Akloose Wrote: Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now

Also heard this which is why I’m hesitant. If anyone has recently done John Lewis, please let me know.


RE: First SE (UK) - Justaguy121 - 08-05-2020

(08-05-2020, 06:02 PM)tamajiv176 Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 05:19 PM)green314 Wrote: You started like a bomb.
You ought to start doing simple SEs, such as food.

This is my humble opinion.

Done food, Amazon and one other store already. So thought I’d move up a notch lol.

(08-05-2020, 05:27 PM)Akloose Wrote: Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now

Also heard this which is why I’m hesitant. If anyone has recently done John Lewis, please let me know.
Don’t it bro John Lewis ftid is patched


RE: First SE (UK) - tamajiv176 - 08-05-2020

(08-05-2020, 08:25 PM)Justaguy121 Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 06:02 PM)tamajiv176 Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 05:19 PM)green314 Wrote: You started like a bomb.
You ought to start doing simple SEs, such as food.

This is my humble opinion.

Done food, Amazon and one other store already. So thought I’d move up a notch lol.

(08-05-2020, 05:27 PM)Akloose Wrote: Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now

Also heard this which is why I’m hesitant. If anyone has recently done John Lewis, please let me know.
Don’t it bro John Lewis ftid is patched

Thanks mate. How is patched exactly?

(08-05-2020, 05:27 PM)Akloose Wrote: Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now

How exactly would they rebill you? Say I FTID successfully, what justification would they have to rebill?


RE: First SE (UK) - Akloose - 08-05-2020

(08-05-2020, 08:31 PM)tamajiv176 Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 08:25 PM)Justaguy121 Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 06:02 PM)tamajiv176 Wrote: Done food, Amazon and one other store already. So thought I’d move up a notch lol.


Also heard this which is why I’m hesitant. If anyone has recently done John Lewis, please let me know.
Don’t it bro John Lewis ftid is patched

Thanks mate. How is patched exactly?

(08-05-2020, 05:27 PM)Akloose Wrote: Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now

How exactly would they rebill you? Say I FTID successfully, what justification would they have to rebill?

They don’t receive the parcel, so they threaten to bill you if you don’t return within 10 days


RE: First SE (UK) - Fastera - 08-05-2020

I have read several people saying John Lewis is not working any more. Members above me seem to agree as well.

FTID is sketchy at best so I would not attempt it myself.

Don't forget you can buy the iPhone on Amazon as well. You say you are familiar with them so it should be a bit easier I would imagine.


RE: First SE (UK) - tamajiv176 - 08-05-2020

(08-05-2020, 09:06 PM)Akloose Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 08:31 PM)tamajiv176 Wrote:
(08-05-2020, 08:25 PM)Justaguy121 Wrote: Don’t it bro John Lewis ftid is patched

Thanks mate. How is patched exactly?

(08-05-2020, 05:27 PM)Akloose Wrote: Wouldn’t recommend, at least not JL. Heard they bill now

How exactly would they rebill you? Say I FTID successfully, what justification would they have to rebill?

They don’t receive the parcel, so they threaten to bill you if you don’t return within 10 days

Even if I have valid tracking that shows they have received it?

(08-05-2020, 09:29 PM)thrw7878 Wrote: I have read several people saying John Lewis is not working any more. Members above me seem to agree as well.

FTID is sketchy at best so I would not attempt it myself.

Don't forget you can buy the iPhone on Amazon as well. You say you are familiar with them so it should be a bit easier I would imagine.

Yes, I think I'm just going to abort the John Lewis one. What's the best method for Amazon? (For a high value item).


RE: First SE (UK) - Fastera - 08-05-2020

(08-05-2020, 09:30 PM)tamajiv176 Wrote: Yes, I think I'm just going to abort the John Lewis one. What's the best method for Amazon? (For a high value item).

That would depend some on your account with them. If you don't have any returns in the past few months, have not had any emails such as "we have noticed an unusually high number of issues/returns with your orders" (and similar),
have used your account for legitimate purchases then you have a few options.

I would probably default to DNA since it is relatively straight forward. Be prepared for the incoming carrier investigation so plan you delivery accordingly in advance. I am certain that with an iPhone 11 pro they will open an investigation if you DNA simply due to the value of the item.
You can try to box them or even FTID (I would not recommend it).

Keep us posted on your progress!