[GOATEDGOD6969]

A few questions assuming you have a well aged amazon account with minimal returns:

1. People advertise up to 15k returns but do we have any real numbers to work with? How much can you get away with?

2. Would amazon believe a first time DNA on an old account for an order worth 5-10k? Does it matter if it's a large or small item? (assuming you provide police report)

3. If you order 12-24 items in one order, and they come in one box, and you DNA the box is that more likely to fail then DNAing a single item or does it not matter at all?

4. I've heard people say doing something like ordering several big items and some rechargeable battery's and just saying the battery leaked on all the stuff does not work. Why? It seems foolproof since you can't mail back stuff covered in battery acid.

5. Does amazon pay attention to the weight of your FTID return? I keep hearing yes and no. If I want to do a FTID on amazon do I need to add matching weight or not?

6. Is the EB method completely dead for amazon? Does EB work on anybody anymore?

7. Can someone explain the FTID method were they take the package and it gets delivered to a random place close to the original destination?
How is that suppose to work? Don't they just look at the delivery address and see it was delivered to the wrong address?

[mothered]

1. People advertise up to 15k returns but do we have any real numbers to work with? How much can you get away with?

There are no hard and fast rules.

2. Would amazon believe a first time DNA on an old account for an order worth 5-10k?

If It's a legit order, complications will be kept to a minimum.

Treat the SE In a legitimate manner, and It will be assessed similarly.

3. If you order 12-24 items in one order, and they come in one box, and you DNA the box is that more likely to fail then DNAing a single item or does it not matter at all?

You're purely claiming nonreceipt of goods, hence the contents are Immaterial.

But do use common sense and good judgment - multiple very high value Items will raise suspicion.

4. I've heard people say doing something like ordering several big items and some rechargeable battery's and just saying the battery leaked on all the stuff does not work. Why? It seems foolproof since you can't mail back stuff covered in battery acid.

The leaking battery method Is very effective when applied accordingly.

As for leaking on other goods, It's an exaggeration, hence should not be used.

5. Does amazon pay attention to the weight of your FTID return? I keep hearing yes and no. If I want to do a FTID on amazon do I need to add matching weight or not?

I don't support the method (If you can call It that), so I won't comment on It.

6. Is the EB method completely dead for amazon? Does EB work on anybody anymore?

The EB/missing Item method has a very high success rate, particularly with AirPods and Apple Watches.

7. Can someone explain the FTID method were they take the package and it gets delivered to a random place close to the original destination?
How is that suppose to work? Don't they just look at the delivery address and see it was delivered to the wrong address?

If the driver Is brain-dead and somehow manages to forget to scan the consignment at the collection point, at the depot and when It arrives at Its destination, then yes, It will be delivered to the address listed on the shipping label.

[MrDurian]

Concerning the FTID, it’s always better to be consistant on the weight of the package. Everything needs to look real.

Concerning EB, I had no more success on Apple product for weeks. They always ask for Police Report on amazon Europe.

Regarding all other point, I agree with what mothered replied.

[Nabeshin]

If you first DNA is on a 5k order when all your previous ones were way under that price then yes, it might be suspicious

It's a lot of money, they won't give in so easily, and there's no way it'll come with an OTP or light enough to do EB

Why not hit multiple times in a longer timeframe instead? Being greedy gets you nowhere

[GOATEDGOD6969]

If you first DNA is on a 5k order when all your previous ones were way under that price then yes, it might be suspicious

It's a lot of money, they won't give in so easily, and there's no way it'll come with an OTP or light enough to do EB

Why not hit multiple times in a longer timeframe instead? Being greedy gets you nowhere

Purely hypothetical question:
Amazon use to not require cell numbers in the early days. If you had an old account that did not have a cell registered to it could they even do OTP?

[mothered]

Purely hypothetical question:
Amazon use to not require cell numbers in the early days. If you had an old account that did not have a cell registered to it could they even do OTP?

Via email.

[GOATEDGOD6969]

Purely hypothetical question:
Amazon use to not require cell numbers in the early days. If you had an old account that did not have a cell registered to it could they even do OTP?

Via email.

Makes sense also thanks for the great post above.

What are the options when it comes to dealing with OTP?
OTP kills the chance of getting away with DNR right or is the system so big people can still get away with saying DNR?
Is FTID the only option or can you still do EB on OTP?

[mothered]

Makes sense also thanks for the great post above.

You're welcome.

What are the options when it comes to dealing with OTP?
OTP kills the chance of getting away with DNR right or is the system so big people can still get away with saying DNR?

An OTP can be circumvented, but It takes an exceptional set of manipulative skills to get the job done.

I've written an article on my blog on how to do It.

Is FTID the only option or can you still do EB on OTP?

A compatible method depends on the nature of the Item you're planning to SE.

[GOATEDGOD6969]

If you first DNA is on a 5k order when all your previous ones were way under that price then yes, it might be suspicious

It's a lot of money, they won't give in so easily, and there's no way it'll come with an OTP or light enough to do EB

Why not hit multiple times in a longer timeframe instead? Being greedy gets you nowhere

I want to SE a gaming PC and they are all 1k+.
I don't care if they shut down my account, I can just make another when I move out and go to grad school.
What do you think the best SE method would be for amazon?

[mothered]

I want to SE a gaming PC and they are all 1k+.

Please provide a link to the PC In question.