[10d20]

My Amazon account is three years old and I have done roughly 4000€ worth of purchases with it. In a couple months (1-2 months), I will perform my first SE on an iPhone 14 Pro with the DNA method, and put my long history of legit transactions into use for my first time. I'll bump this thread or create a new one when settled and ready to start.
That means I still have time to look into other methods (I did, but they did not feel as safe as the DNA one which has the lowest risk of them all. While still being real) and to gather the balls to further step up my game other than overdoing DNA.

I've already read most of the resources mothered has put into his blog but I still have questions that needs some bit of clarifications ;

• Is the risk of an OTP real ? It is my biggest fear (justified, i'm still a beginner and need to judge the temperature of the pool I'll be swimming in from now on) because I need to ACT, and it is hard for me to think of an correct excuse to not being able to give the password. It's just a scenario that would be great if prevented. For my first time at least.
  
• After my first Amazon SE'ing success, I'll be targeting other Apple products such as the MacBook Air M2 and an iPad Pro. What methods do you recommend for these ? I won't be using DNA every time I'll be SE'ing since it'll be too suspicious to do so, then what ? FTID seems too out of this world, LIT has seemingly many drawbacks that involves CCTV and shit, and not to mention the method that involves Dry Ice : and what if it fails and melts in the worst timing possible ? There's many things to consider and I hate this. What would be your suggestion for the method I'll be using for my next SE ?
  
• First SE, legit purchase, legit purchase, legit purchase, next SE on a 6-7 weeks window (with Amazon). Did I got it right, or do I need to take more precautions and to put more space in between my SEs to keep my account safe from an assblasting mail ?
  
• There were a few scenarios when the carrier gave my package to one of my neighbors, that's a scenario I would pretty much like to prevent because the investigation will obviously lead to them and I don't wish this, for their and my safety. What if I told the carrier or Amazon if possible that they deposit the package in front of my door ? Would they listen ? And if they do, is it still their responsability if anything "happens" to the package, or mine which means no refund fuck you ?
  

That's all I need to know. Times are rough and gf's birthday is approaching. I want the girl to smile for once.

[Doomza]

Good luck. Amazon and apple is probably the hardest combination of products to try and hit. I think they blacklist the device with phones too now. I certainly wouldn't try multiple apple SEs on the same account unless you don't care about it potentially getting closed.

[mothered]

You're overthinking your upcoming SE with an array of events that may never eventuate.

When you're ready to hit It, provide all details of relevance and we'll take It from there.

[10d20]

Good luck. Amazon and apple is probably the hardest combination of products to try and hit. I think they blacklist the device with phones too now. I certainly wouldn't try multiple apple SEs on the same account unless you don't care about it potentially getting closed.

That is one of my fears. But isn't there any existent solutions to bypass the blacklist ? I've heard there are quite a few third-party companies that can unlock your IMEI.

Even so, the only trouble would be the phone. Why do you think the next Apple products would be the hardest ones to SE in the same account after this one successful hit, if the worst is already behind (the phone being at risk of a blacklist) ?

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You're overthinking your upcoming SE with an array of events that may never eventuate.

Yes.

This is a very annoying habit of mine that costed me many, many opportunities. I'm too prudent, and like to imagine all kind of scenarios to avoid surprises — I hate getting surprised, everything needs to be smooth and my mind blocks at even the smallest detail. That's why a large panel of the methods you have exposed are a no-go to me as of now.

When you're ready to hit It, provide all details of relevance and we'll take It from there.

You're right. One of the reason for this thread to even exist is for me to not feel alone on what I am doing, gives me a little push that others are in the same boat y'know.

[mothered]

This is a very annoying habit of mine that costed me many, many opportunities. I'm too prudent, and like to imagine all kind of scenarios to avoid surprises  — I hate getting surprised, everything needs to be smooth and my mind blocks at even the smallest detail. That's why a large panel of the methods you have exposed are a no-go to me as of now.

It's Imperative to research companies, carriers and methods (unbeknownst to you) In preparation for your SE - that's a given.

However, prematurely manifesting scenarios and events for an SE that has yet to be established, can complicate matters.

One of the reason for this thread to even exist is for me to not feel alone on what I am doing, gives me a little push that others are in the same boat y'know.

Absolutely.

We're here to listen and advise on any questions and concerns you may have.

[10d20]

This is a very annoying habit of mine that costed me many, many opportunities. I'm too prudent, and like to imagine all kind of scenarios to avoid surprises  — I hate getting surprised, everything needs to be smooth and my mind blocks at even the smallest detail. That's why a large panel of the methods you have exposed are a no-go to me as of now.

It's Imperative to research companies, carriers and methods (unbeknownst to you) In preparation for your SE - that's a given.

However, prematurely manifesting scenarios and events for an SE that has yet to be established, can complicate matters.

One of the reason for this thread to even exist is for me to not feel alone on what I am doing, gives me a little push that others are in the same boat y'know.

Absolutely.

We're here to listen and advise on any questions and concerns you may have.

Thanks you for answering me, mothered. It is very nice to see you're still on the game after all these years.

I do have a question : what if I use the Empty Box method in case there's an OTP? Without an OTP, I'll go along with the basic DNA and just do fine, but if there is one however, wouldn't it be still as do-able if I just declare to Amazon that the package I have received was plain empty ? I'm ordering a relatively small with little weight (iPhone 14 Pro) with a juicy account, they wouldn't suspect a thing. No?

[EquitableEngineer]

I do have a question : what if I use the Empty Box method in case there's an OTP? Without an OTP, I'll go along with the basic DNA and just do fine, but if there is one however, wouldn't it be still as do-able if I just declare to Amazon that the package I have received was plain empty ? I'm ordering a relatively small with little weight (iPhone 14 Pro) with a juicy account, they wouldn't suspect a thing. No?

I have seen users around here say that they were able to circumvent the OTP by marking the item as a 'gift' as you are checking out, I have not personally done this though it makes sense. I cannot give any info on its success rate though. I think EB is out of the question due to the weight.

That's all I need to know. Times are rough and gf's birthday is approaching. I want the girl to smile for once.

If it takes high value electronics to make your GF smile then you may have a gold digger on your hands

[10d20]

I have seen users around here say that they were able to circumvent the OTP by marking the item as a 'gift' as you are checking out, I have not personally done this though it makes sense. I cannot give any info on its success rate though. I think EB is out of the question due to the weight.

Oh really? That's cool, will surely try it on my first attempt. But, why do you think the EB wouldn't work in this case ? I've heard people SEing around 1kg of some shit, why wouldn't I be able to pull it off with an iPhone ? The thing weights 172g.

If it takes high value electronics to make your GF smile then you may have a gold digger on your hands

I don't want her to doubt about our relationship. She has done so much for me at this point, and me near to nothing.

But that's not the topic. I'm not here to banter.

[Doomza]

Good luck. Amazon and apple is probably the hardest combination of products to try and hit. I think they blacklist the device with phones too now. I certainly wouldn't try multiple apple SEs on the same account unless you don't care about it potentially getting closed.

That is one of my fears. But isn't there any existent solutions to bypass the blacklist ? I've heard there are quite a few third-party companies that can unlock your IMEI.

Even so, the only trouble would be the phone. Why do you think the next Apple products would be the hardest ones to SE in the same account after this one successful hit, if the worst is already behind (the phone being at risk of a blacklist) ?

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You're overthinking your upcoming SE with an array of events that may never eventuate.

Yes.

This is a very annoying habit of mine that costed me many, many opportunities. I'm too prudent, and like to imagine all kind of scenarios to avoid surprises  — I hate getting surprised, everything needs to be smooth and my mind blocks at even the smallest detail. That's why a large panel of the methods you have exposed are a no-go to me as of now.

When you're ready to hit It, provide all details of relevance and we'll take It from there.

You're right. One of the reason for this thread to even exist is for me to not feel alone on what I am doing, gives me a little push that others are in the same boat y'know.

Amazon aren't stupid. Apple products are the hardest to SE on their because they are the most common high price items people attempt. If you try and do multiple on the same account it's going to raise some flags. If iPhones and macbooks were so easy on there everyone would be rinsing them. You need high end methods for apple products on Amazon really, some sort of insider service or scans. DNA, FTID and things are way too basic to have high success rate with Amazon and apple products. I wish you good luck I just personally wouldn't do it.

[mothered]

Amazon aren't stupid. Apple products are the hardest to SE on their because they are the most common high price items people attempt. If you try and do multiple on the same account it's going to raise some flags. If iPhones and macbooks were so easy on there everyone would be rinsing them. You need high end methods for apple products on Amazon really, some sort of insider service or scans. DNA, FTID and things are way too basic to have high success rate with Amazon and apple products. I wish you good luck I just personally wouldn't do it.

Well said.

The only Apple products that continue with a high success rate, are AirPods and Apple Watches - namely EB'ing.