[mothered]

Has amazon ever investigsted people after banning them?? I though they just ban and thats it.

If they have reason to, then yes, they will Investigate.

A banned account Is simply closed, but still kept on file as a point of reference.

im guessing you are speculating here..

No I'm not. I've had first-hand experience for over three decades with companies on every scale.

If there's no point of reference with (previous) banned accounts, on what grounds do you think fresh accounts keep getting banned?

[umpal00mpa]

If they have reason to, then yes, they will Investigate.

A banned account Is simply closed, but still kept on file as a point of reference.

im guessing you are speculating here..

No I'm not. I've had first-hand experience for over three decades with companies on every scale.

If there's no point of reference with (previous) banned accounts, on what grounds do you think fresh accounts keep getting banned?

*Using a dedicated VPN/IP Is not good practice- It's a lot easier to Identify your movements If under Investigation."

ok i was just questioning what 'investigate' means.. i thought they investigated when a) gave me a warning and also b) before closing my account... also im pretty sure amazon dont really fingerprint. they just lock your address, and after this, if you order anything that required a signature to this address the account gets banned. not seeing any issue logging into other accounts from the same phone. and using my card on those.


"Opt for a server that's shared by thousands of users. The objective Is to be part of the majority, and not the minority. Using any of the major browsers (FF, Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera etc) will suffice."

Ok but if your server is changing on every logon its a red flag. And i dont see why a unique static IP address that was setup with fake details and paid with by bitcoin be an issue? Have you tried using expressVPN? Amazon login work but everything inside is stripped down, customer services dont work etc. all we're trying to do. here is get a new account and smash out a few orders and rinse and repeat.. whats the issue here with these 'investigstions'... what you're saying they hire some csi people to track me down for getting a few free ipads?

[ManakaJunpei]

im guessing you are speculating here..

No I'm not. I've had first-hand experience for over three decades with companies on every scale.

If there's no point of reference with (previous) banned accounts, on what grounds do you think fresh accounts keep getting banned?

*Using a dedicated VPN/IP Is not good practice- It's a lot easier to Identify your movements If under Investigation."

ok i was just questioning what 'investigate' means.. i thought they investigated when a) gave me a warning and also b) before closing my account... also im pretty sure amazon dont really fingerprint. they just lock your address, and after this, if you order anything that required a signature to this address the account gets banned. not seeing any issue logging into other accounts from the same phone. and using my card on those.


"Opt for a server that's shared by thousands of users. The objective Is to be part of the majority, and not the minority. Using any of the major browsers (FF, Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera etc) will suffice."

Ok but if your server is changing on every logon its a red flag. And i dont see why a unique static IP address that was setup with fake details and paid with by bitcoin be an issue? Have you tried using expressVPN? Amazon login work but everything  inside is stripped down, customer services dont work etc. all we're trying to do. here is get a new account and smash out a few orders and rinse and repeat.. whats the issue here with these 'investigstions'... what you're saying they hire some csi people to track me down for getting a few free ipads?

You're still stealing money from them, so yes they could file a case against you and will use these many accounts of yours as reference, it seems like you dont understand that you have to be like every other customer and just do your own thing of buying a bunch of little things to go for a big one which you will always refund making you an easy target for Amazon as it's obvious you're trying to steal from them I'm sure that if you continue this and they go to the police they would take their side.

[mothered]

ok i was just questioning what 'investigate' means.

Fair enough, understood.

Ok but if your server is changing on every logon its a red flag.

It doesn't. We're not talking about the Tor network- new circuit with the Middle & Exit Nodes.

I've been on the same server/IP consistently shared by thousands of users for months.

[umpal00mpa]

No I'm not. I've had first-hand experience for over three decades with companies on every scale.

If there's no point of reference with (previous) banned accounts, on what grounds do you think fresh accounts keep getting banned?

*Using a dedicated VPN/IP Is not good practice- It's a lot easier to Identify your movements If under Investigation."

ok i was just questioning what 'investigate' means.. i thought they investigated when a) gave me a warning and also b) before closing my account... also im pretty sure amazon dont really fingerprint. they just lock your address, and after this, if you order anything that required a signature to this address the account gets banned. not seeing any issue logging into other accounts from the same phone. and using my card on those.


"Opt for a server that's shared by thousands of users. The objective Is to be part of the majority, and not the minority. Using any of the major browsers (FF, Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera etc) will suffice."

Ok but if your server is changing on every logon its a red flag. And i dont see why a unique static IP address that was setup with fake details and paid with by bitcoin be an issue? Have you tried using expressVPN? Amazon login work but everything  inside is stripped down, customer services dont work etc. all we're trying to do. here is get a new account and smash out a few orders and rinse and repeat.. whats the issue here with these 'investigstions'... what you're saying they hire some csi people to track me down for getting a few free ipads?

You're still stealing money from them, so yes they could file a case against you and will use these many accounts of yours as reference, it seems like you dont understand that you have to be like every other customer and just do your own thing of buying a bunch of little things to go for a big one which you will always refund making you an easy target for Amazon as it's obvious you're trying to steal from them I'm sure that if you continue this and they go to the police they would take their side.

give me one even hear say story of amazon filing a report with the police against someone and ill shut up.. and probably never refund again lol.

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*Using a dedicated VPN/IP Is not good practice- It's a lot easier to Identify your movements If under Investigation."

ok i was just questioning what 'investigate' means.. i thought they investigated when a) gave me a warning and also b) before closing my account... also im pretty sure amazon dont really fingerprint. they just lock your address, and after this, if you order anything that required a signature to this address the account gets banned. not seeing any issue logging into other accounts from the same phone. and using my card on those.


"Opt for a server that's shared by thousands of users. The objective Is to be part of the majority, and not the minority. Using any of the major browsers (FF, Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera etc) will suffice."

Ok but if your server is changing on every logon its a red flag. And i dont see why a unique static IP address that was setup with fake details and paid with by bitcoin be an issue? Have you tried using expressVPN? Amazon login work but everything  inside is stripped down, customer services dont work etc. all we're trying to do. here is get a new account and smash out a few orders and rinse and repeat.. whats the issue here with these 'investigstions'... what you're saying they hire some csi people to track me down for getting a few free ipads?

You're still stealing money from them, so yes they could file a case against you and will use these many accounts of yours as reference, it seems like you dont understand that you have to be like every other customer and just do your own thing of buying a bunch of little things to go for a big one which you will always refund making you an easy target for Amazon as it's obvious you're trying to steal from them I'm sure that if you continue this and they go to the police they would take their side.

give me one even hear say story of amazon filing a report with the police against someone and ill shut up.. and probably never refund again lol. I just don't see it. Police investigating some amazon customer service loophole. Nope. And even if they did, what would they find? have a think.. You sold that stuff on gumtree already, or if you own it.. you just hide it at your mates house.. What you think they're gonna get a court order to search my house over a couple grand of refunds because i lied to their customer service? And what they're gonna confiscate my laptops and rake through my internet history? They do that if you've murdered someone lol. Yes sure if i'm making 100k a year off them i'm sure they would go out of their way to catch me in the act etc.. Even then i'm not sure how.. maybe hire a private investigator.. who knows make an example of me. But i'm in no way in that kind of league.

[mothered]

You're still stealing money from them, so yes they could file a case against you and will use these many accounts of yours as reference

This Is certainly a possibility If you keep (consistently) hitting one SE after another- particularly high value Items.

As a general statement, don't be greedy.

[umpal00mpa]

You're still stealing money from them, so yes they could file a case against you and will use these many accounts of yours as reference

This Is certainly a possibility If you keep (consistently) hitting one SE after another- particularly high value Items.

As a general statement, don't be greedy.

agreed

[ManakaJunpei]

You're still stealing money from them, so yes they could file a case against you and will use these many accounts of yours as reference

This Is certainly a possibility If you keep (consistently) hitting one SE after another- particularly high value Items.

As a general statement, don't be greedy.

agreed

https://nypost.com/2017/10/02/couple-ste...rn-scheme/ this is one of the biggest ones of course
but there are dozens of cases of people being arrested for it *U asked to link you an article before*
Hope to give you some insight o7

[mothered]

This Is certainly a possibility If you keep (consistently) hitting one SE after another- particularly high value Items.

As a general statement, don't be greedy.

agreed

https://nypost.com/2017/10/02/couple-ste...rn-scheme/ this is one of the biggest ones of course
but there are dozens of cases of people being arrested for it *U asked to link you an article before*
Hope to give you some insight o7

I've read this article a while back.

It clearly demonstrates the risks and ramifications Involved with SEing.

[umpal00mpa]

This Is certainly a possibility If you keep (consistently) hitting one SE after another- particularly high value Items.

As a general statement, don't be greedy.

agreed

https://nypost.com/2017/10/02/couple-ste...rn-scheme/ this is one of the biggest ones of course
but there are dozens of cases of people being arrested for it *U asked to link you an article before*
Hope to give you some insight o7

well thanks, needed someone to help me end this addiction.. i think my SEing days are over lol.. was fun though