[kevinadams]

Could somebody help me calculate the sublimation time for dry ice? I am trying to SE an iPhone 13 Pro Max 1TB. The phone weighs 240 grams. I haven't got the dry ice yet, but I want to give this method a go. Thanks! 

[eljot88]

Could somebody help me calculate the sublimation time for dry ice? I am trying to SE an iPhone 13 Pro Max 1TB. The phone weighs 240 grams. I haven't got the dry ice yet, but I want to give this method a go. Thanks! 

Hey
Why do you want to use dry ice in sealed box method?

[Tibo inc]

I’ve done this personally. You don’t need to calculate any timings it will dissaperate before it gets to them. If I’m doubt go to the post office at the weekend or after that days collection. They’ll weigh it when your there and then leave it alone.

[mothered]

dry ice sublimation time for sealed box method on iPhone?

It's not needed for the sealed box method.

Could somebody help me calculate the sublimation time for dry ice?

For your reference, It's based on atmospheric conditions, storage and transit time. Generally speaking, 2.2 Kg of dry Ice takes around one day to sublimate - give or take the said factors.

Do the math on that equation.

[kevinadams]

Could somebody help me calculate the sublimation time for dry ice? I am trying to SE an iPhone 13 Pro Max 1TB. The phone weighs 240 grams. I haven't got the dry ice yet, but I want to give this method a go. Thanks! 

Hey
Why do you want to use dry ice in sealed box method?

To be honest, I don't know why. I saw a blog post on social engineers about the sealed box method and how the item in question can be replaced with dry ice. If anything, wouldn't using dry ice be risky? Because throughout transit, if there is a discrepancy between the weight, from when it was initially weighed, to when the business receives its return, wouldn't they find out?

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dry ice sublimation time for sealed box method on iPhone?

It's not needed for the sealed box method.

Could somebody help me calculate the sublimation time for dry ice?

For your reference, It's based on atmospheric conditions, storage and transit time. Generally speaking, 2.2 Kg of dry Ice takes around one day to sublimate - give or take the said factors.

Do the math on that equation.

If you don't think it's necessary to use dry ice in the sealed box method, could you please tell me when dry ice would be applicable to use, or at least what method may be better suited? I just made a purchase of some dry ice and don't particularly want to waste it. Thanks

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I’ve done this personally from John Lewis UK. You don’t need to calculate any timings it will dissaperate before it gets to them. If I’m doubt go to the post office at the weekend or after that days collection. They’ll weigh it when your there and then leave it alone.

I'm glad it worked for you. If I go ahead with this method hopefully it works for me too. My only concern is the weight discrepancy when Currys receive their return. The item will obviously be weighed and scanned, and by that time the dry ice would have completely turned to gas. So what would happen from then?

[Tibo inc]

If anything, wouldn't using dry ice be risky? Because throughout transit, if there is a discrepancy between the weight, from when it was initially weighed, to when the business receives its return, wouldn't they find out?

That’s the entire method. They weigh it when you give it to them, and you don’t touch it after that. The company receives an empty box and because it was weighed when you posted it and it had the “item” in it then, it’s not your fault it’s gone missing. The company chalks it down to lost/stolen in transit and you receive your refund. The post office can do an investigation but no body actually stole it so no one gets fired and you get your refund + the item.

[kevinadams]

If anything, wouldn't using dry ice be risky? Because throughout transit, if there is a discrepancy between the weight, from when it was initially weighed, to when the business receives its return, wouldn't they find out?

That’s the entire method. They weigh it when you give it to them, and you don’t touch it after that. The company receives an empty box and because it was weighed when you posted it and it had the “item” in it then it’s not your fault it’s gone missing. The company chalks it down to lost/stolen in transit and you receive your refund. The post office can do an investigation but no body actually stole it so no one gets fired and you get your refund + the item.

Ok, that makes much more sense. Thank you for clarifying. I'm assuming if I use an item that doesn't sublimate, if there isn't much variance in weight and the box doesn't look like it's been tampered with, will go back to stock, right? I want to SE Currys without raising any suspicion.

[Tibo inc]

If anything, wouldn't using dry ice be risky? Because throughout transit, if there is a discrepancy between the weight, from when it was initially weighed, to when the business receives its return, wouldn't they find out?

That’s the entire method. They weigh it when you give it to them, and you don’t touch it after that. The company receives an empty box and because it was weighed when you posted it and it had the “item” in it then it’s not your fault it’s gone missing. The company chalks it down to lost/stolen in transit and you receive your refund. The post office can do an investigation but no body actually stole it so no one gets fired and you get your refund + the item.

Ok, that makes much more sense. Thank you for clarifying. I'm assuming if I use an item that doesn't sublimate, if there isn't much variance in weight and the box doesn't look like it's been tampered with, will go back to stock, right? I want to SE Currys without raising any suspicion.

Sometimes.

Some companies sometimes process the refund as soon as they receive the package back without even opening it but most do open it and check. Dry ice is honestly the best method imo because it removes all element of suspicion from you, then they do an investigation which is guaranteed to turn up empty because dry ice evaporates without any trace it literally just vanishes. You can’t go wrong with dry ice I guarantee you 100% it will work with no comebacks for any priced item.

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Just make sure you have the post office weigh the parcel and stick the weight on the box don’t just print out the shipping label and put it on a box. If you have the post office weigh it themselves it will definitely work.

[kevinadams]

That’s the entire method. They weigh it when you give it to them, and you don’t touch it after that. The company receives an empty box and because it was weighed when you posted it and it had the “item” in it then it’s not your fault it’s gone missing. The company chalks it down to lost/stolen in transit and you receive your refund. The post office can do an investigation but no body actually stole it so no one gets fired and you get your refund + the item.

Ok, that makes much more sense. Thank you for clarifying. I'm assuming if I use an item that doesn't sublimate, if there isn't much variance in weight and the box doesn't look like it's been tampered with, will go back to stock, right? I want to SE Currys without raising any suspicion.

Sometimes.

Some companies sometimes process the refund as soon as they receive the package back without even opening it but most do open it and check. Dry ice is honestly the best method imo because it removes all element of suspicion from you, then they do an investigation which is guaranteed to turn up empty because dry ice evaporates without any trace it literally just vanishes. You can’t go wrong with dry ice I guarantee you 100% it will work with no comebacks for any priced item.

Edit:

Just make sure you have the post office weigh the parcel and stick the weight on the box don’t just print out the shipping label and put it on a box. If you have the post office weigh it themselves it will definitely work.

Ok, perfect. I recently made a purchase of some dry ice so I'll definitely use it and keep you updated. It's not arrived yet but will be in small pellets. I am trying to think how I will manage to put 240 grams worth of dry ice in a small iPhone box though. Do you think it's possible?

[Tibo inc]

Ok, that makes much more sense. Thank you for clarifying. I'm assuming if I use an item that doesn't sublimate, if there isn't much variance in weight and the box doesn't look like it's been tampered with, will go back to stock, right? I want to SE Currys without raising any suspicion.

Sometimes.

Some companies sometimes process the refund as soon as they receive the package back without even opening it but most do open it and check. Dry ice is honestly the best method imo because it removes all element of suspicion from you, then they do an investigation which is guaranteed to turn up empty because dry ice evaporates without any trace it literally just vanishes. You can’t go wrong with dry ice I guarantee you 100% it will work with no comebacks for any priced item.

Edit:

Just make sure you have the post office weigh the parcel and stick the weight on the box don’t just print out the shipping label and put it on a box. If you have the post office weigh it themselves it will definitely work.

Ok, perfect. I recently made a purchase of some dry ice so I'll definitely use it and keep you updated. It's not arrived yet but will be in small pellets. I am trying to think how I will manage to put 240 grams worth of dry ice in a small iPhone box though. Do you think it's possible?

The cardboard box just has to be large enough to be able to fit the iPhone box in. Maybe put some “padding” in a larger box and it’ll be good. Packing peanuts for example or crushed up paper etc.

Don’t put the ice in phone box put it in a cardboard box which “has the iPhone box inside” - quotes to signify it doesn’t actually have the iPhone box inside 😂