[FiTtED77]

Soooo, I kinda wanna try a SE on something like a  MacBook, and I’d like to either go chargeback or lost cc.
I’m wondering if I went lost cc there a way to use a drop house and still be able to sign if needed?
Id plan to call up a little after the arrival and say I didn’t  notice charge etc…etc… cc was stolen, lost whatever..
Will any of this work?

[EdenSlate]

Theoretically, yes. Why would it not?

As you can expect, it's all about making the claim believable, refining its details.
- bypass any sort of 2FA for payment (or, report stolen phone too).
- no CCTV when signing for package (+ have a friend sign for you?).
- dont leak any data in the process, which would reveal you were the one actually pulling that.

[FiTtED77]

Theoretically, yes. Why would it not?

As you can expect, it's all about making the claim believable, refining its details.
- bypass any sort of 2FA for payment (or, report stolen phone too).
- no CCTV when signing for package (+ have a friend sign for you?).
- dont leak any data in the process, which would reveal you were the one actually pulling that.

Okay so thanks for the reply. Should a VPN be enough security to cover tracks?
Like what if a VPN was used at an address I’m moving from in a month. It’s tied to my cc. Just can’t figure out where to drop / not willing to put friends at risk too.

[EdenSlate]

Okay so thanks for the reply. Should a VPN be enough security to cover tracks?

It's enough to mask your IP. That's it.
If you're serious about it, that's not enough to cover your tracks.

Ideally, a (disposable) dedicated device + untraceable IP (anon simcard hotspot or public wifi hotspot).

[FiTtED77]

Alright got it, disposable/ pub wifi sounds simplest. How about receipt of device.
Thank you sincerely for your input .

[HeadxHunter]

Soooo, I kinda wanna try a SE on something like a  MacBook, and I’d like to either go chargeback or lost cc.
I’m wondering if I went lost cc there a way to use a drop house and still be able to sign if needed?
Id plan to call up a little after the arrival and say I didn’t  notice charge etc…etc… cc was stolen, lost whatever..
Will any of this work?

This sounds like the hardest SE to pull off. Too many moving parts. CC was stolen, backtrack IP to see it was from a device connected to a public wifi, claim 2fa was phished, then see fake signature all for a macbook that could be DNA'd?

[FiTtED77]

Soooo, I kinda wanna try a SE on something like a  MacBook, and I’d like to either go chargeback or lost cc.
I’m wondering if I went lost cc there a way to use a drop house and still be able to sign if needed?
Id plan to call up a little after the arrival and say I didn’t  notice charge etc…etc… cc was stolen, lost whatever..
Will any of this work?

This sounds like the hardest SE to pull off. Too many moving parts. CC was stolen, backtrack IP to see it was from a device connected to a public wifi, claim 2fa was phished, then see fake signature all for a macbook that could be DNA'd?

Well when you put it that way, thoughts on MacBook DNA currently? In Canada we don’t have OTP and for airs they don’t specify sig req. although this doesn’t mean it won’t be a gamble.

[HeadxHunter]

Soooo, I kinda wanna try a SE on something like a  MacBook, and I’d like to either go chargeback or lost cc.
I’m wondering if I went lost cc there a way to use a drop house and still be able to sign if needed?
Id plan to call up a little after the arrival and say I didn’t  notice charge etc…etc… cc was stolen, lost whatever..
Will any of this work?

This sounds like the hardest SE to pull off. Too many moving parts. CC was stolen, backtrack IP to see it was from a device connected to a public wifi, claim 2fa was phished, then see fake signature all for a macbook that could be DNA'd?

Well when you put it that way, thoughts on MacBook DNA currently? In Canada we don’t have OTP and for airs they don’t specify sig req. although this doesn’t mean it won’t be a gamble.

I would just drop house, and sit on delivery. No OTP sounds like a dream. If OTP fake sign & go home hug yourself while you wait for refund. I've yet to do an OTP order-last one I let go because I couldn't wait for refund (Needed immediate capitol.)

[sinisterlee]

Where do people live to find drop houses, detroit? lol
Not saying it cannot work but always thought it is sketchy hanging out by a house potentially for the whole day which is either unoccupied or is up for sale.

In the past it could have worked better but now with ring doorbell cameras, increased cctv, neighbours it is too risky imo.

[EdenSlate]

Not saying it cannot work but always thought it is sketchy hanging out by a house potentially for the whole day which is either unoccupied or is up for sale.

I think it depends on the level of risk involved with what you're tryna pull.

1) Only need a drop to bypass stores blacklisting your address? That's chill.
If you live in a dense city, use this to your advantage.
Pick some random building 100 feet from where you live.
Wait for driver's call, make up some excuse & rush to meet him.

2) Need a drop for some harder shit, like what OP was thinking about?
Probably worth waiting couple hours far away from your house...

In the past it could have worked better but now with ring doorbell cameras, increased cctv, neighbours it is too risky imo.

Fair point. Wiser to stick to methods that wouldnt call for someone bothering to check CCTV in the first place.